You caught me.

Royale may be a killer name (yeah, a pun, again ;-)) but I'm not convinced.
Coming from a kingdom with a less than inspiring king, the name is not
giving me a warm and fuzzy feeling. And, to me, it is also not a really a
'catchy' name, so my preference stays with Blend. Or FlexJS, if we end up
staying with Apache after all.

EdB



On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Carlos Rovira <
carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:

> Hi Erik,
>
> you're referring to this?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pkq_eBHXJ4
>
> (minute 1'15'')
>
> hehe
>
> ;)
>
>
>
> 2017-09-14 9:29 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>:
>
> > Royale
> >
> > makes me think of French hamburgers :-)
> >
> > I do like
> >
> > Bend
> >
> > To keep things simple, my prime candidate is still simply
> >
> > FlexJS
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 7:01 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Don't you think guys that is too much references, regarding what Alex
> > > found?
> > >
> > > We are writing in AS - what about emphasis this to RoyaleAS?
> > >
> > > I'm still not sure yet whether name change convince me..
> > >
> > > Piotr
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017, 03:35 Jeffry Houser <jef...@dot-com-it.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wasn't Royale the beta name for some version of Flex?  [Flex 2? or
> was
> > > > it Flex 1?]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/13/2017 6:30 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> > > > > Hi -
> > > > >
> > > > > I did a quick suitable name search.
> > > > >
> > > > > Royale might be taken by this individual’s project
> > > > > https://github.com/ian-culleton/royale
> > > > >
> > > > > Otherwise Royale in a TESS search is liquor and beauty products
> > mostly.
> > > > > There is a lot of “Clash Royale"
> > > > >
> > > > > And there is also “Royale with Cheese” - a reference in Pulp
> Fiction
> > > > > to what a Macdonald’s Quarter Pounder is called in Paris.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Sep 13, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net
> > > > >> <mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi -
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We have one alternative name - Royale
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Are there others that people would like to propose?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If not then we can have a simple VOTE between FlexJS and Royale.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards,
> > > > >> Dave
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 3:01 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net
> > > > >>> <mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hi Om,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I think that dilutes the votes and biases the result towards
> > FlexJS.
> > > > >>> If we want to go that way then we need a preference ranking and
> > more
> > > > >>> complicated VOTE counting.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Regards,
> > > > >>> Dave
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:57 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> > > > >>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com <mailto:bigosma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> We could always structure the VOTE like this:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> 1.  Royale
> > > > >>>> 2.  XXX
> > > > >>>> 3.  YYY
> > > > >>>> 4.  FlexJS
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> One vote should answer both questions.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>> Om
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>> <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com <mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>>
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> On the other hand, we have rather majority of voices for do not
> > > > >>>>> change the
> > > > >>>>> name and Alex is right. - I'm seeing more people asking for
> help
> > > with
> > > > >>>>> porting. - We may disappear in the sea of frameworks with
> changed
> > > > >>>>> name...
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Maybe better have solid framework and invest in current name
> > still
> > > > >>>>> with
> > > > >>>>> nice branding. I'm puzzled, so definitely I will give myself at
> > > > >>>>> least one
> > > > >>>>> day more before VOTE.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Piotr
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 2017-09-13 23:31 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>>> <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com <mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com
> >>:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> +1 for Dave's proposition on starting the VOTE for name
> change.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I would like to also add that Carlos's proposition for help to
> > > > >>>>>> build new
> > > > >>>>>> brand triggers me. Peter helped also do understand that we can
> > > > always
> > > > >>>>> state
> > > > >>>>>> from where we have come and what was our story.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I'm going to change my mind on name changing and pickup
> "Royale"
> > > > >>>>>> as the
> > > > >>>>>> most powerful for the new one. - The main question is can we
> use
> > > > >>>>>> it since
> > > > >>>>>> it was code name of Macromedia Framework ?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>>>> Piotr
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> 2017-09-13 22:59 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net
> > > > >>>>>> <mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net>>:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Hi -
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>> <mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos’ argument carries weight to me.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> If a new name will help motivate him in terms of marketing
> it,
> > > > >>>>>>>> that’s
> > > > >>>>>>> value I can recognize.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> The name is not as important to me as motivating people to
> be
> > > > >>>>>>>> involved
> > > > >>>>>>> in the project. We can build whatever messages we want around
> > > > >>>>>>> the name.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos clearly feels more passionate about his position
> than I
> > > do
> > > > >>>>> about
> > > > >>>>>>> mine.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> A hesitation I have about picking a new name is that I don’t
> > > > >>>>>>>> want to
> > > > >>>>>>> delay the board’s decision on the new PMC. If we go for a new
> > > > >>>>>>> name can
> > > > >>>>> we
> > > > >>>>>>> try and pick one quickly?
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Let's start the FlexJS yes or no vote tonight or tomorrow
> > > morning.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> In parallel we can discuss other names if a new name is the
> > > > >>>>>>> result then
> > > > >>>>>>> we can immediately start the next vote. We have just enough
> > time.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Regards,
> > > > >>>>>>> Dave
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Harbs
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > >>>>>>> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> > > > >>>>>>> <mailto:carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> I'm putting some efforts here since I think this is really
> > > > >>>>>>>>> important
> > > > >>>>>>> for
> > > > >>>>>>>>> all of us and for our beloved FlexJS project.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Name, website and all the visuals behind it matters....and
> is
> > > > >>>>>>> important in
> > > > >>>>>>>>> a way many of us in this community maybe can't imagine. If
> we
> > > > >>>>>>>>> don't
> > > > >>>>>>> get a
> > > > >>>>>>>>> fresh and compelling name and a clean and beautiful site
> > where
> > > we
> > > > >>>>>>> explain
> > > > >>>>>>>>> all the great things our technology can do, we are losing
> our
> > > > >>>>>>>>> time,
> > > > >>>>>>> since
> > > > >>>>>>>>> this project will end with the bulk of the others xxxJS
> > > > >>>>>>>>> projects, and
> > > > >>>>>>>>> that's even horrible when our tech could be used for things
> > > other
> > > > >>>>> than
> > > > >>>>>>> JS!!
> > > > >>>>>>>>> (If we want in future years to make it possible).
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> @Alex: I Think we can't have a PROJECT name != of PRODUCT
> > name
> > > > for
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 <+48%20880%20859%20557>
> > > > >>>>>> skype: zarzycki10
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > >>>>>> <https://pl.linkedin.com/in/piotr-zarzycki-92a53552>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557
> > > > >>>>> skype: zarzycki10
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > >>>>> <https://pl.linkedin.com/in/piotr-zarzycki-92a53552>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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