Hi Swapnil and Sharan,

I don’t know how you want to proceed but I’ll make a suggestion.

Phase 1: 

1. Create a table that lists all CHAOSS metrics: chaoss.community/metrics
2. In one column, track the status of checking Kibble’s support for that metric
3. A third column can contain comments and feedback to be shared with the 
CHAOSS community
4. If Kibble has metrics that CHAOSS does not define, those can be added to the 
table to be added to CHAOSS later.
This could live in a GoogleDoc Sheet.

Phase 2: 
Share feedback with CHAOSS community about how Kibble implements the metrics 
and what metrics Kibble has that are not yet defined in CHAOSS.

My goal would be to improve the CHAOSS metric definitions with your feedback, 
list Kibble as a known implementation for these metrics, and add metrics we 
don’t have yet.

I’m happy to help in the process. Also, you can proceed differently, this is 
just a suggestion.

Best,
Georg


> On May 11, 2020, at 5:41 AM, Swapnil M Mane <swapnilmm...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sharan,
> Sounds great to me.
> Recently I got the opportunity to explore CHAOSS project and it seems
> very interesting.
> I would like to collaborate with you on this effort, please let me
> know if you need any assistance on this.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Swapnil M Mane,
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> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 6:43 AM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org 
> <mailto:humbed...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like an idea :)
>> Sharan and I did some matrices for this back in 2018(?) for FOSDEM that
>> we could use as a starting point. I'll look more into what we have and
>> what we need once I'm back from my involuntarily extended holiday
>> (hopefully in 2 weeks time).
>> 
>> With regards,
>> Daniel.
>> 
>> On 06/05/2020 18.13, Georg Link wrote:
>>> Thanks Sharan,
>>> 
>>> I am a CHAOSS co-lead and very much appreciate your initiative.
>>> 
>>> 1. CHAOSS is (slowly) working on a conformance program that would 
>>> officially allow Kibble to claim conformance with CHAOSS metrics. As we 
>>> create this program, it would be amazing to have representation from Kibble 
>>> in the conversation so that we can create the program in a way that will 
>>> work for Kibble.
>>> 
>>> 2. It would be amazing to know how Kibble implements the CHAOSS metrics 
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__chaoss.community_metrics_&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=P2SSJg6nDRqSw6MK6ZVW76NaDtv69G3wvyOnOxwzqv0&m=0-Ng-4k6AsHMF1n1DGRbStcwEto566Ng4hdtnNicJ9g&s=V2xlf64CeqmVQC-3Q1VHxKQ3k40shQXCDLTEtOv856s&e=
>>>  
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__chaoss.community_metrics_&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=P2SSJg6nDRqSw6MK6ZVW76NaDtv69G3wvyOnOxwzqv0&m=0-Ng-4k6AsHMF1n1DGRbStcwEto566Ng4hdtnNicJ9g&s=V2xlf64CeqmVQC-3Q1VHxKQ3k40shQXCDLTEtOv856s&e=>
>>>  >. As Sharan said, CHAOSS is open to feedback and changing the metric 
>>> based on your feedback. Any kind of feedback would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> After completing (2), it would be awesome to add in each metric a link to 
>>> Kibble as known implementation. This will allow everyone looking at CHAOSS 
>>> metrics to learn about Kibble.
>>> 
>>> I’m happy to answer questions and help with this process.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Georg
>>> 
>>>> On May 6, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Sharan Foga <sha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All
>>>> 
>>>> A while ago we talked about the possibility of getting Kibble linked with 
>>>> CHAOSS as an implementation of some of their defined metrics. We havent 
>>>> had much activity on the list so I'd like to suggest that we could focus 
>>>> on starting this work and getting it done.
>>>> 
>>>> I think we need to somehow document how we are calculating certain metrics 
>>>> so we can see if we currently align with what has been defined or if we 
>>>> are doing it differently, there could be the possibility of proposing an 
>>>> updating the existing definitions.
>>>> 
>>>> So the approach I'm thinking of at the moment is:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Reach out the CHAOSS to understand what information they need about 
>>>> Kibble to understand if we conform to any of their existing metrics
>>>> 2. Highlight where we are align / conform, and document where we dont
>>>> 
>>>> What do people think?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Sharan
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Georg Link
>>> (he/him)



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