Thank you Georg for detailed notes, It sounds a good plan to me. Will wait for inputs from Sharan and proceed accordingly.
Best regards, Swapnil M Mane, www.apache.org On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:42 PM Georg Link <gl...@unomaha.edu.invalid> wrote: > > Hi Swapnil and Sharan, > > I don’t know how you want to proceed but I’ll make a suggestion. > > Phase 1: > > 1. Create a table that lists all CHAOSS metrics: chaoss.community/metrics > 2. In one column, track the status of checking Kibble’s support for that > metric > 3. A third column can contain comments and feedback to be shared with the > CHAOSS community > 4. If Kibble has metrics that CHAOSS does not define, those can be added to > the table to be added to CHAOSS later. > This could live in a GoogleDoc Sheet. > > Phase 2: > Share feedback with CHAOSS community about how Kibble implements the metrics > and what metrics Kibble has that are not yet defined in CHAOSS. > > My goal would be to improve the CHAOSS metric definitions with your feedback, > list Kibble as a known implementation for these metrics, and add metrics we > don’t have yet. > > I’m happy to help in the process. Also, you can proceed differently, this is > just a suggestion. > > Best, > Georg > > > > On May 11, 2020, at 5:41 AM, Swapnil M Mane <swapnilmm...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Hi Sharan, > > Sounds great to me. > > Recently I got the opportunity to explore CHAOSS project and it seems > > very interesting. > > I would like to collaborate with you on this effort, please let me > > know if you need any assistance on this. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Swapnil M Mane, > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apache.org&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=P2SSJg6nDRqSw6MK6ZVW76NaDtv69G3wvyOnOxwzqv0&m=0-Ng-4k6AsHMF1n1DGRbStcwEto566Ng4hdtnNicJ9g&s=X0nJMuhICdIkhS3t1MMBPrE6GxTKL6jHKWcFtjvbSqQ&e= > > > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apache.org&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=P2SSJg6nDRqSw6MK6ZVW76NaDtv69G3wvyOnOxwzqv0&m=0-Ng-4k6AsHMF1n1DGRbStcwEto566Ng4hdtnNicJ9g&s=X0nJMuhICdIkhS3t1MMBPrE6GxTKL6jHKWcFtjvbSqQ&e=> > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 6:43 AM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org > > <mailto:humbed...@apache.org>> wrote: > >> > >> Sounds like an idea :) > >> Sharan and I did some matrices for this back in 2018(?) for FOSDEM that > >> we could use as a starting point. I'll look more into what we have and > >> what we need once I'm back from my involuntarily extended holiday > >> (hopefully in 2 weeks time). > >> > >> With regards, > >> Daniel. > >> > >> On 06/05/2020 18.13, Georg Link wrote: > >>> Thanks Sharan, > >>> > >>> I am a CHAOSS co-lead and very much appreciate your initiative. > >>> > >>> 1. CHAOSS is (slowly) working on a conformance program that would > >>> officially allow Kibble to claim conformance with CHAOSS metrics. As we > >>> create this program, it would be amazing to have representation from > >>> Kibble in the conversation so that we can create the program in a way > >>> that will work for Kibble. > >>> > >>> 2. It would be amazing to know how Kibble implements the CHAOSS metrics > >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__chaoss.community_metrics_&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=P2SSJg6nDRqSw6MK6ZVW76NaDtv69G3wvyOnOxwzqv0&m=0-Ng-4k6AsHMF1n1DGRbStcwEto566Ng4hdtnNicJ9g&s=V2xlf64CeqmVQC-3Q1VHxKQ3k40shQXCDLTEtOv856s&e= > >>> > >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__chaoss.community_metrics_&d=DwIFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=P2SSJg6nDRqSw6MK6ZVW76NaDtv69G3wvyOnOxwzqv0&m=0-Ng-4k6AsHMF1n1DGRbStcwEto566Ng4hdtnNicJ9g&s=V2xlf64CeqmVQC-3Q1VHxKQ3k40shQXCDLTEtOv856s&e=> > >>> >. As Sharan said, CHAOSS is open to feedback and changing the metric > >>> based on your feedback. Any kind of feedback would be appreciated. > >>> > >>> After completing (2), it would be awesome to add in each metric a link to > >>> Kibble as known implementation. This will allow everyone looking at > >>> CHAOSS metrics to learn about Kibble. > >>> > >>> I’m happy to answer questions and help with this process. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> Georg > >>> > >>>> On May 6, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Sharan Foga <sha...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi All > >>>> > >>>> A while ago we talked about the possibility of getting Kibble linked > >>>> with CHAOSS as an implementation of some of their defined metrics. We > >>>> havent had much activity on the list so I'd like to suggest that we > >>>> could focus on starting this work and getting it done. > >>>> > >>>> I think we need to somehow document how we are calculating certain > >>>> metrics so we can see if we currently align with what has been defined > >>>> or if we are doing it differently, there could be the possibility of > >>>> proposing an updating the existing definitions. > >>>> > >>>> So the approach I'm thinking of at the moment is: > >>>> > >>>> 1. Reach out the CHAOSS to understand what information they need about > >>>> Kibble to understand if we conform to any of their existing metrics > >>>> 2. Highlight where we are align / conform, and document where we dont > >>>> > >>>> What do people think? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> Sharan > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Georg Link > >>> (he/him) > > > > -- > Georg Link > (he/him) >
