so are the points being discussed here not so applicable in say the US and
Canada? 

Is CF up there with the likes of ASP and JSP 'over there'?

and are MM promoting CF more heavily in North America?

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From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 April 2004 11:36
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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK


As far as I'm concerned, CF is still important to specific 
companies/orgs but is not a growing platform.  I think MM missed a trick 
with this, because it really should be! It's profile is not high enough 
in Europe to take on the .NET's and JSP's of this world.

Let's face it, CF isn't going to grow as a developer platform unless MM 
put the legwork as Allaire did into it.  however, since MM took over 
Allaire (or whatever they did) it's been obvious that MM's focus on CF 
was nowhere near as sharp.  They have done little to outgun .NET even 
though there are certain good features in CF.

My personal opinion (and it's a personal one) is that CF is not going to 
last in this country. I suspect that even the big CF sites will 
eventually move over to ASP.NET at some point.  I for one will not be 
too unhappy (having learned ASP.NET when it was in beta) and also having 
learned Java/JSP etc at roughly the same time.

There's an "all eggs in the CF basket" thing going on with some people, 
and my advice is diversify.  Go with ASP.NET (C#) or PHP or poss 
Java/JSP (although the market there is pretty saturated as it is - but 
there are jobs!) and keep CF as a backburner. It's bad business practice 
to not have other skills anyway!

Paul

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