Re: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK

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>And I've never made a penny.   more fool you ;-)   Ian W   ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Powell To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:32 PM Subject: Re: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK Its  funny but now I think about it, over the years (just the last two) I've bought about 40 copies of MX Studio and at least half a dozen CF Server installations. To fairly large Blue Chip companies. And I've never made a penny.   Doh!     ----- Original Message ----- From: Duncan Fenton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:51 PM Subject: Re: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK So, Steve, who sold them the CF license? You or MM directly?  Seems to me the guys who get the deal should do the legwork.  If the licence was sold from MM direct then they should have provided the collateral - like in your case the customer lists. Makes sense? Duncan Fenton ======================================== Message date : Apr 14 2004, 12:19 PM From : "Steve Powell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copy to : "Steve Powell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject : RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK I've implemented ColdFusion systems at a number of fairly big names. Like others here I've encountered resistence because finding CF developers isn't straight forward (it isn't something our Project Managers have heard of) they also like to know that there are other companies out there using it, a kind of safety in numbers thing. I've often had to compile lists of comapnies that use it and also demonstrate that there are enough CF dvelopers available to cover their needs once we've left. I think the usage of CF is grossly under-reported. I've seen quite a few installations at places that you wouldn't immediately think of as well as knowing about a number of Intranet apps that aren't exactly visible. All of this would benefit from a higher profile and generally greater awareness. MM in the UK provide precious little support outside of CFUGUK and not that much for CFUKUG. MM UK have had a poor reputation for years, you should have tried getting support out of them for Director (their flagship product) 5 years ago. Almost everything gets referred to the US as the guys here are all sales and not much else. What the solution to this is though I have no idea. Steve -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Join the UK's number one for the internet Click here