Hello,

Christian Schulte <c...@schulte.it> schrieb am Di., 3. Jan. 2017 um 02:57 Uhr:

> Am 01/02/17 um 21:01 schrieb Benson Margulies:
> > On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Christian,
> >>
> >> Please read Tibor's concerns:
> >> - big change,
> >> - near release (with parallel branches for JUnit 5)
> >> And I'll add: noise, like addition of final, reordering of imports,
> >> addition/
> >> suppression of empty lines
> >>
> >> Please follow Tibor's request, which tries to be as kind as possible:
> >>> So now please revert last change [1] and let's start from the ground.
> >>> We should again learn from the beginning and start communicating in the
> >>> community; otherwise this is the end of the project.
> >>
> >
> > In my uninteresting opinion, Tibor should formally veto the commit.
> That's
> > not un-nice, it's the way to express, clearly and crisply, his view that
> > the change is not acceptable without further discussion and refinement.
> On
> > the other hand, I don't think that the remarks about 'playgrounds' or
> > 'sandboxes' are appropriate or respectful. We should all assume good
> intent
> > and professional intent. We are running a CTR system here, and so we
> should
> > expect something like this to happen from time to time, where someone
> > commits with the best of intentions and someone else feels strongly that
> > more work is needed.
> >
> > Once Tibor has vetoed, Christian should revert, and then the process
> should
> > unfold from there.
> >
>
> This part of the commit does not correct any exception suppressed
> incorrectly, it really fixes a resource leak (lacking calls to close).
>

I think everybody should calm down for a moment and remember that we're all
just trying to create some great software here :-)

At the commons project we usually inform the mailing list when we start to
work on components we don't work on a regular basis. Maybe this is the kind
of transparency Tibor was asking about.
I understand Tibor's point about the surefire codebase. I suspect he feels
pretty much left alone. This is what I observed when I was working on the
JUnit 5 integration.
On the other hand I understand Christians motivation to try to make things
better.

Regards,
Benedikt


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