Mark,

No we cannot fork back. It is too large of a body of code to absorb
without a grant, AL or no AL.

I'm always happy to be proved stupid by consultation with legal. Until
then, however, the policy seems perfectly clear to me. Only small
amounts of code can be absorbed without a grant.

--benson


On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> Humm, guess there are only 3 options left in this case
>
>
> 1.) We wait 7 weeks or whatever time it takes (most probably it _will_ take 
> more)
>
> 2.) You ship an ALv2 licensed version of Aether and Sisu which we can 
> incorporate into an upcoming maven-3.0.4.
>
> 3.) We fork the last ALv2 licensed Aether version back to the Maven project 
> and fix the bugs ourself.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
> --- On Thu, 7/28/11, Jason van Zyl <ja...@sonatype.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Jason van Zyl <ja...@sonatype.com>
>> Subject: Re: Apache Maven distribution with fixes
>> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org>
>> Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 12:32 PM
>> On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Mark
>> Struberg wrote:
>>
>> > mom jason.
>> >
>> > Before we ship 3.0.4 I'd like to fix the SCM URL
>> postfix problem which exists in lots of DSCMs. Will do this
>> in the next week.
>> >
>>
>> You probably have 6-7 weeks before an official 3.0.4
>> release would be made so you have plenty of time.
>>
>> If you are going to wait for Aether and Sisu to be
>> provisioned at Eclipse then the total time for both of those
>> to pass into that state is about 7 weeks. The build I
>> proposed could not be an official release until such a time
>> because there are fixes which rely on Sisu and Aether which
>> are important for users.
>>
>> > LieGrue,
>> > strub
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Thu, 7/28/11, Jason van Zyl <ja...@sonatype.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Jason van Zyl <ja...@sonatype.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: Apache Maven distribution with fixes
>> >> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org>
>> >> Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 11:41 AM
>> >> I'll assume that this is fine and no
>> >> one objects. I'll announce this on the user list
>> later
>> >> today.
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Jason van Zyl
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Maven PMC,
>> >>>
>> >>> Benjamin and I would like to make a
>> distribution
>> >> available that addresses several issues with the
>> Apache
>> >> Maven 3.0.3 release. We have pushed back all
>> bugfixes that
>> >> do not involve Eclipse Aether[a] and Eclipse
>> Sisu[b] as
>> >> their incorporation into the mainline and an
>> official
>> >> release is your decision.
>> >>>
>> >>> We haven't pushed any individual artifacts to
>> Maven
>> >> Central as part of creating the distribution, we
>> have only
>> >> created the distribution itself. If there is
>> anything you
>> >> want changed let us know and we'll change it, but
>> we wanted
>> >> to make these fixes available in a build for users
>> who are
>> >> having problems. We're not trying to represent it
>> as
>> >> anything other then a distribution that
>> incorporates fixes
>> >> users need.
>> >>>
>> >>> The build is available here:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl
>> >>>
>> >>> ------------------------------------
>> >>> Summary of the issues
>> >>> ------------------------------------
>> >>>
>> >>> Fixes pushed back to the ASF:
>> >>>
>> >>> [MNG-5064][1] mvn -nsu (--no-snapshot-updates)
>> should
>> >> not download snapshots (and break local builds)
>> >>> [MNG-5131][2] Wrong encoding for encrypted
>> passwords
>> >>> [MNG-5113][3] NullPointerException on javadoc
>> site
>> >> generation
>> >>> [MNG-5137][4] Reactor resolution does not work
>> for
>> >> forked multi module builds
>> >>> [MNG-5096][5] <exclusion> on
>> <dependency>
>> >> with <type>test-jar</type> doesn't
>> work in maven
>> >> 3
>> >>> [MNG-5135][6] Regression: in some cases
>> aggregator
>> >> mojo is unable to resolve dependencies with
>> custom
>> >> packaging
>> >>>
>> >>> Fixes not pushed back to the ASF as these are
>> >> dependent on fixes in Eclipse Aether and Eclipse
>> Sisu:
>> >>>
>> >>> [MNG-5042][7] Regression: CloningClassLoader
>> causes
>> >> StackOverflowError in groovy
>> >>> [MNG-5056][8] Test dependencies get packaged
>> into WAR
>> >> file.
>> >>> [MNG-5084][9] Resolver for plugins failing
>> >>> [MNG-5087][10] Maven 3 dependency resolution
>> fails
>> >> until maven-metadata-local.xml files (created by
>> >> maven-invoker-plugin) are deleted
>> >>> [MNG-5125] [11]Regression: mvn 3.0.3 is
>> extreemly slow
>> >> with a large number of dependencies
>> >>> [MNG-5138][12] Dependency conflicts are
>> extremely
>> >> opaque
>> >>>
>> >>> [1]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5064
>> >>> [2]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5131
>> >>> [3]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5113
>> >>> [4]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5137
>> >>> [5]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5096
>> >>> [6]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5135
>> >>>
>> >>> [7]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5042
>> >>> [8]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5056
>> >>> [9]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5084
>> >>> [10]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5087
>> >>> [11]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5125
>> >>> [12]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5138
>> >>>
>> >>> [a]: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
>> >>> [b]: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Jason
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> Jason van Zyl
>> >>> Eclipse Board Member
>> >>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>> >>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> >>>
>> >>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>
>> >>> If I find ten thousand ways something won't
>> work, I
>> >> haven't failed. I am not discouraged,
>> >>> because every wrong attempt discarded is just
>> one more
>> >> step forward.
>> >>>
>> >>> -- Thomas Edison
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Jason
>> >>
>> >>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Jason van Zyl
>> >> Founder,  Apache Maven
>> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> >>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we
>> have to keep
>> >> track
>> >> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts.
>> We tend to
>> >> forget
>> >> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and
>> the
>> >> painful
>> >> groping. We see our past achievements as the end
>> result of
>> >> a
>> >> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties
>> as
>> >> signs of decline and decay.
>> >>
>> >> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human
>> Condition
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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>>
>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
>> examples.
>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper
>> without
>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure.
>> No one
>> is that smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you
>> develop it by
>> looking at the things it is supposed to be a design of. The
>> more examples
>> you look at, the more general your framework will be.
>>
>>   -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for
>> Evolving Frameworks
>>
>>
>>
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