How about the Start Page, aka Welcome Screen, for basic/initial/beginner
configuration and pointers; and it's always available via "Menu > Help >
StartPage".
-ernie
On 11/1/2021 5:53 PM, Eric Bresie wrote:
Would it be worth allowing selection of LAF at install time? Maybe a
wizard with other customization (plugins, language, fonts, formatting,
etc.)? This may take a page from Intellij but maybe..,
On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 6:02 PM Mark Eggers <its_toas...@yahoo.com.invalid>
wrote:
I just played around with FlatLaf Light on Ubuntu 20.04 and NetBeans 12.5
The fonts look much clearer than they have been.
It's "bright", but then I suppose that's what the light version is
supposed to be. I'll see how tired my eyes get after a day or so of using.
I can always revert.
It looks reasonable, and I didn't see any color issues that were too bad
(maybe a little light on XML comments).
The colors in FlatLaf dark still end up being too "muddied" for day to
day use in the editor. That's the curse of being red/green color deficient.
+0 for me.
. . . just my two cents
/mde/
On 11/1/2021 11:04 AM, Mark Eggers wrote:
-0 on this.
I am red/green color deficient. I've tried using FlatLaf several times,
and I just could not get the color selection to work where everything
was different and yet easy for me to read.
I'll try again on 12.5, but for now I've stuck with the Windows LAF for
my Windows systems and Nimbus (don't laugh) for my GtK systems due to
some font scaling issues.
I'll try FlatLaf with 12.5 on Ubuntu 20.04 to see how it goes, but
Nimbus seems to work fine for me at the moment.
Changing the default is not an issue with me since I currently do it
anyway. About the only issue with changing away from FlatLaf is that I
have to change the editor LAF separately from the IDE LAF (last time I
tried).
I'm mostly a systems admin / architect these days so my NetBeans usage
centers around proof of concepts and tracking down memory leaks in Java
web applications.
In short, I'm more of a casual user at this point.
. . . . just my two cents
/mde/
Thanks for a great platform, and hopefully one day soon I'll actually be
able to contribute.
On 11/1/2021 7:56 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
+1 on this one. Maybe if we could even the installer should be on
FlatLaf (right now on GTK with dark schema, the license agreement text
is white over white, need to select it to be able to read that.)
I use FlatLaf Light for the release versions and FlatLaf Dark on the
dev builds.
On 11/1/21 07:01, Neil C Smith wrote:
Hi,
So, now we've branched off 12.6, and we know that the next release
will be NetBeans 13, require JDK 11+, and hopefully ship with nb-javac
included .. is it time we changed (improved?! :-) ) how NetBeans looks
out of the box too?
Should we consider FlatLaf (light or dark) as the default look and
feel from NetBeans 13?
This is partly prompted by working through a few JIRA tickets with
HiDPI issues resolved by switching, a few snarky social media comments
about NetBeans' appearance I've seen recently where the go-to replies
seem to just be to tell people to switch to FlatLaf .. and the fact
I'm constantly switching even when debugging because the GTK theme on
Ubuntu is borderline unusable.
So, what do you think? For or against? Maybe also add what you do
use, and light or dark, in a reply - it might make some sense if we
defaulted to what the majority of us use in practise?
Best wishes,
Neil
--
Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
