Hi David,

The problem that I have with the components is that they are an all or
nothing proposition.  For example, due to dependencies, I have not been able
to use the party management component on its own without first manually
removing the dependencies to other application components.

Cheers,

Chris


David E Jones-4 wrote:
> 
> 
> On Dec 17, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:
> 
>> Having OFBiz splitted in a core framework and add-on modules seems to
>> me like a must if we want to improve features.
>> Add-on modules is how many large and popular projects are built.
>> Even OpenERP says to have more that 350 modules and offers different
>> flavours of it here http://www.openerp.com/discover/demonstration.html
> 
> We already have a plugin, or add-on, or whatever you want to call it,
> facility: components.
> 
>> I think we should start discussing on the module add-on system that we
>> want to implement in OFBiz.
>> I have read that there is a plan from Neogia people to introduce what
>> they have developed. Is there any schedule for this?
>> Are you going to write a Confluence page where we can see how it works?
>> 
>> Are we going to host the add-on modules on a separate SVN folder?
> 
> It seems the whole point of add-on modules is to NOT have them be part of
> the project. The intellectual property issues and concerns are totally
> different from the main project, and the licensing may not be compatible
> with what the ASF requires, so no I really don't think it would make sense
> to have a place for more loosely managed stuff in SVN.
> 
> On the other hand, we already have a place for add-on modules in SVN: the
> specialpurpose directory.
> 
> Consider that the framework and applications directories are the basis of
> OFBiz, and everything else is an add-on of sorts. The applications are
> important so that add-on components can use the common data model for
> implicit integration, unless the add-on application won't be doing
> anything with common business data, and then it only needs depend on the
> framework.
> 
> Now getting back to the point... I think you already know all of this
> Bruno, so what is it that you'd like to see that OFBiz does not already
> have?
> 
> -David
> 
> 
>> 2009/10/29 Tim Ruppert <tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com>:
>>> This sounds fantastic Marc - it's amazing to see many of the software
>>> providers out there coming together to back this idea.  This has the
>>> unique
>>> opportunity of taking everything that OFBiz does to the next level.
>>> 
>>> I guess the big question is, what's next to help get some of these
>>> backend
>>> ideas back into this newly refined mission?  We're more than happy to
>>> devote
>>> resources to making this happen.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ruppert
>>> --
>>> Tim Ruppert
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>> 
>>> o:801.649.6594
>>> f:801.649.6595
>>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Marc Morin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> As many of you know, we at Emforium have been busy building out a full
>>>> set
>>>> of business software application to provide an "ALL-IN" comprehensive
>>>> solution for the small business market.  When we started the evaluation
>>>> over
>>>> a year ago, Ofbiz was the selected platform of choice.  Other
>>>> components are
>>>> Zimbra for email and concrete5 for web.
>>>> 
>>>> Over this time, we've spent our efforts providing an entirely new UI
>>>> front
>>>> end for the backend applications: sales order, inventory, CRM, admin,
>>>> reports, multi tenancy, published datasets (makes solution targeted for
>>>> any
>>>> market or geography), etc...
>>>> 
>>>> We have expressed privately that Ofbiz needs to have a new mission in
>>>> order to really drive it's importance and relevance as an open source
>>>> project.  As it stands, it's scope is very wide, and not targeted a
>>>> providing and out-of-the box solution to any problem, save ecommerce
>>>> (even
>>>> then, lot's of styling work usually needed).
>>>> 
>>>> We would be 100% behind this direction for Ofbiz.  We'd want to
>>>> contribute
>>>> back components now that are Emforium proprietary and would work to
>>>> reduce
>>>> the amount of deviation between our proprietary solution and this newly
>>>> stated direction.
>>>> 
>>>> Marc
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> 

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