I am concerned about this move to be honest. In general, the idea to focus with apache ofbiz on its core and to cluster the other components into external "plugins" is an important step, however, I do not think that moving it all outside of ASF would help us by any means.
In my opinion it is important to keep a relation between OFBiz and its subprojects. Granted, not all of which can fulfill the quality or commitment that we want to achieve, but taking it outside the realms of ASF and the PMC means that we forcefully take away the relation of one and another. This in turn means that the OFBiz and Apache brand do not apply to those projects and hence the level of commitment is going to be even less (why would any company commit its work if its not even going to be a part of the oficial brand?). In addition, taking projects entirely out of focus will result in less participation overall, because the projects are going to have less observations - not more. This will result in an overall downfall in quality of such components (which is not all that strong to begin with) and could hurt the community. Instead, there is a high probability that we will see an increase of additional and similar projects (a second, or third demo shop would probably not be too uncommon) which will strip the quality even further. Simply put the incentives aren't right. On top there is actually a somewhat legal infringement if I am not mistaken. Since the developers commited their sources to ASF, I wouldn't be too certain that you can simply take them and move them to google. Even if under the Apache license, I am not sure if its that easy to do so. Perhaps to clarify once more: The move in itself is good, but I would really hope for an ASF based subproject. It is important that we do this, but why not choose a better way that sets the incentives right? -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Slim-down-effort-current-situation-tp4637617p4637653.html Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.