Inline... From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com> > Please see inline: > > On Nov 16, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >> Hi Jacopo, >> >> So apart the next step is to move all specialpurpose components to Apache >> Extras. Are we still all OK to do that? > > I don't think we should move all specialpurpose components out of the > project, and for sure not all of them in one shot: we could discuss on a per > component basis.
Great >> I heard here and there that not all the community is expecting good from >> this move. > > Of course it will be impossible to make everyone happy but the feedback I am > reading in this thread makes me happy (no dramatic tones, like happened in > the past, willing to evaluate pros and cons etc..). > BTW, some time ago I also proposed an alternative path: see email with > subject "[PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras": to that I can add that we > could provide two set of ant scripts, one similar to the one we have that > builds/tests everything (framework+applications+specialpurpose) and one (the > default) that only builds/tests the framework+applications; the release > branches may only contain the framework+applications and separate releases of > specialpurpose applications could be voted/released at different time. This > approach may reach two goals: > 1) slim down the "main" code that the community is more focused to > improve/maintain/release > 2) keep under the OFBiz community the ownership of all the other > specialpurpose components (this should address Paul's concerns); if one of > them will get more attention and interest and could grow in quality or it is > generic enough we could decide to move it to the release branch (maybe move > it to applications) This sounds like a really smart way, I will have to read "[PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras" (closer) again... >> Like less attention to moved components or new component going only to >> Apache Extras. >> An example is the new Solr component wich is supposed to be used with the >> eCommerce component. > > The problem I have with these components (and to be clear I am not referring > to this specific contribution) is that they are one particular implementation > (and very often not the best) of a requirement (e.g. Solr integration, > reporting tool, help system etc...) and there could be 100 others different > ways to implement the same: for example, even if everyone agrees that the > "online help" is useful, there are many doubts that the specific > implementation of it we are discussing is the right way to go; or even if > everyone agrees that a better reporting tool would be nice to have, there are > many that think that the current Birt component is not the right way to go. 100 others different ways I'm not sure ;) But yes I get your point. The problem is then to get things done in time... There is nothing perfect in this world (which does not mean I believe in another perfect world)... Jacques > Kind regards, > > Jacopo > >> So far we agreed that the eCommerce component will be the only one (apart if >> we agree on it the new webhelp component) to stay in specialpurpose, right? >> >> Thanks to one last time share your opinions, before the next move occurs... >> >> Jacques >> >> From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com> >>> Thank you Jacques. >>> >>> I am going to work on the debian removal, that should be quick. >>> >>> Another important milestone would be the creation of an extras.html page >>> for our website where we could list: >>> 1) the components for OFBiz managed out of the OFBiz as Apache Extras >>> 2) the components moved to Attic (migrating the information currently in >>> Confluence) >>> >>> A short description in the page should describe the process. >>> >>> For this task a contributor/committer with good English skills would be >>> required. The final content of the page will be approved in this list >>> before it will be published. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Jacopo >>> >>> >>> On Nov 15, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> >>>> I don't see much activity recently >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ/fixforversion/12320551 >>>> >>>> Should we not focus a bit more on it? >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>> >>> > >
