I haven't had time yet, I was on a computer-free vacation last week and now have a ton to catch up on.
I've read the pdf document but it's light on implementation detail so I guess I'll have to dig into the patch at some point. Thoughts/questions so far: - The build time compilation is a concern IMO, I'd like to see a help system that users can edit as needed with things like business specific information and filling in gaps for custom enhancements that the devs didn't document fully - I think I saw somewhere that it is planned to commit the generated help html? Why? Version control is for source code. - How would this approach work in multi-tenanted systems where not all apps are available to all tenants? If help is a complete document I'm not sure how it could be restricted by context? I think it's important to make a distinction between the 'prettiness' of the proposed implementation and the underlying design. I also think it's unfortunate that we're unable to eat our own dog food and use the content app properly given that documentation is ultimately content embedded within OFBiz. It's a great use-case for improving the content app really. Regards Scott On 4/12/2012, at 7:58 AM, Olivier Heintz wrote: > I have tested the new OFBIz webhelp for the last 3 weeks and migrated > some help we already have (for projectmgr) > > On a end user perspective, webhelp is clearly an enhancement, because > search and glossary (and better presentation) help to find the correct > information more quickly. > On a help writer perspective, docbook file structure is easier to > understand that dataresource - content - contentAssoc - ... > > There are still some minors problems, but in each case I have found > (with Tom help sometime) how to solve it. > > I'm waiting a first release is publish to trunk to send jira with these > enhancements. > > User Help is one of the software quality criteria and webhelp will help > ofbiz community to have better one. > Tools is not everything, but it's a good step to motivate the community > to contribute in this area. > > > Le 28/11/2012 19:22, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> Bump ? >> >> Jacques >> >> Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> Yes no problems. Depending on what you are starting from, you will need to >>> add binaries files (from my last patch) or not (Tom's >>> zips) but with zips you might get some issues, already blurred in my mind. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Scott Gray" <scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com> >>>> It's been all of 3 days since I asked you to wait for a thorough review, >>>> has that happened yet or will you just keep asking >>>> until no one can be bothered asking you to wait any longer? Patience is a >>>> virtue Jacques, the project has gone over 10 years >>>> without this feature and I don't think a few days/weeks/months will hurt >>>> any, especially considering the next release branch >>>> isn't due to be created for quite some time. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 19/11/2012, at 8:41 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> We (Tom and I) are ready to commit the new help (webhelp - OFBIZ-4941) in >>>>> the content component where all work for us, and will >>>>> be completed by Tom as he suggested. There are some trivial Birt issues >>>>> which will dissapear when the process will be >>>>> completed, see my last comment. >>>>> >>>>> Is it ok to commit as is and to improve later? Mostly we want to move >>>>> webhelp outside of the content component in a new, to >>>>> stay OOTB, specialpurpose webehlp component. Or do you want this >>>>> addressed before? Note that if you want this addressed now we >>>>> expect a rapid help from those who want that... >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >
