I dont think there is anything wrong by just doing a direct inquiry
and response. Most people might not take the time to review the site
and try to get in touch as soon as possible. Is cultural, I know. It
goes with "I want a human on the other side of the (phone) line".


On 4/14/14, Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 2014-04-14, at 12:46, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> On 2014-04-14, at 11:33, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/14/2014 07:20 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2014-04-14, at 09:39, Samer Mansour <samer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Odd, I thought this was pretty obvious:
>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/why/why_sme.html  Its only 2 clicks into
>>>>>> the site. I want to learn more -> Businesses, third bullet down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This may be a product of our localized sites not existing / being
>>>>>> updated. This person was inquiring for a Malaysian business, not
>>>>>> sure if the person inquiring was also from Malaysia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This seems to be an FAQ item:  What are commercial terms for AOO?
>>>>>>> Where is a good place to put this FAQ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> Being obvious, stating the repeated—then stating it again—is no proof
>>>>> against the wilfully oblivious poster who feels compelled to
>>>>> correspond personally with seeming humans to obtain requisite legal
>>>>> permissions; in fact, it may be legally required to get an actual
>>>>> reply from the copyright holder that commercial usage of this free
>>>>> software is permitted.
>>>>>
>>>>> At least, that was my experience long long ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having a FAQ, as we did at Sun, helped--but only for this we
>>>>> envisioned being like us. In the end, just spending time at night
>>>>> with the outlier questions seemed most expeditious. louis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it would help to include an additional question on the
>>>> "I want to learn more about OpenOffice" topic on the home page of the
>>>> website -- "What is the cost for licenses?"
>>>>
>>>> or something similar
>>>
>>> -1. A link to FAQ might do the trick. But how many queries of this sort
>>> (clueless) do we actually get? Not that many, yes? I would rather we keep
>>> our website as clean and direct as possible, and invite people to
>>> contribute, yes, and to distribute, but given *why* people come to the
>>> site, the simpler the better. Analogues: Mozilla, for one but one could
>>> also point to other open source apps that are commodified, e.g., Drupal,
>>> https://drupal.org/. (Drupal's site is clearly not meant for the naive
>>> user, however.)
>>>
>>
>> Actually, we've had a few of these in the last month or so, variations
>> on "May I use OpenOffice commercially", "May I pre-install OpenOffice
>> on hardware that I'm distributing", and "I'm a central buying
>> authority and I have paperwork to fill out on all the software my
>> customer uses".   We're dealing in these cases with bureaucrats, not
>> familiar with open source software.  If there is not a box in their
>> form for open source they might not know what to do.
>
>
> Egad. You mean, we *don't* have that sort of language already? I figured
> we'd retained that and other clarifications from OOo days' FAQ, not all of
> which related to Sun/Oracle or the licenses used. (I helped write or edit
> most of the faq and maintained them). The faq are still there, in svn, last
> I checked.
>
> But anyway, we used to have language stating what you just put. It
> worked—for those who read it and got it.
>
> Louis
>
>
>>
>> I doubt they'll find on their own whatever page we put this info in,
>> but it would be a time saver just to be able to point them to it next
>> time.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>> -louis
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Jain, Rahul
>>>>>>> <rahul.j...@softwareone.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Team,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please respond to our mail on urgent basis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rahul Jain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Global Procurement Team
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
>>>>>>>> cid:image001.jpg@01CCB2FE.5C377F40]<
>>>>>>> http://www.softwareone.com/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Global Vendor & Publisher Management *Sent:* Thursday,
>>>>>>>> April 10, 2014 6:52 PM *To:*
>>>>>>>> 'marketing-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org' *Subject:* FW:
>>>>>>>> Quote requested-Open Office 3 *Importance:* High
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are waiting for your response.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rahul Jain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Global Procurement Team
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
>>>>>>>> cid:image001.jpg@01CCB2FE.5C377F40]<
>>>>>>> http://www.softwareone.com/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Global Vendor & Publisher Management *Sent:* Wednesday,
>>>>>>>> April 9, 2014 12:09 PM *To:*
>>>>>>>> 'marketing-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org' *Subject:* FW:
>>>>>>>> Quote requested-Open Office 3 *Importance:* High
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are waiting for your response.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rahul Jain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Global Procurement Team
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
>>>>>>>> cid:image001.jpg@01CCB2FE.5C377F40]<
>>>>>>> http://www.softwareone.com/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Global Vendor & Publisher Management *Sent:* Tuesday,
>>>>>>>> April 8, 2014 4:33 PM *To:*
>>>>>>>> 'marketing-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org' *Subject:* Quote
>>>>>>>> requested-Open Office 3 *Importance:* High
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Team,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have an end user ‘Stamford College’ interested in below
>>>>>>>> mentioned license for their environment in Malaysia. They have
>>>>>>>> reached out to SoftwareONE Malaysia to see if we were able to
>>>>>>>> procure this software for them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SoftwareONE has earlier also has done business with you and we
>>>>>>>> request
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> to please provide the below details for this request:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sku No.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Item Description*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Qty*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *List Price*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *(per user)*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Currency*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Language Code*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Operating System*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Version*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Reseller Discount*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *(in %)*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Customer Discount*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *(if applicable)*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Open Office 3(Educational prices)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1 Year Maintenance (Mandatory/ Optional)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3 Years Maintenance (Mandatory/ Optional)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Note: Please specify what all is included in Maintenance and
>>>>>>>> if Maintenance is Recurring or not.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Bill-to-SWO Location: SWO *Malaysia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Deploy-to-Customer Location: *Malaysia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We also request you to please share the reseller pricelist
>>>>>>>> mentioning the reseller discount and price list validity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kindly mention your terms and conditions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Price Validity
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Payment Terms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Delivery Time
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Freight Charges
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Process of placing order
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Taxes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> EULA link
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Downgrade rights
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please also confirm whether the product is available *per user/
>>>>>>>> per server*?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your time and attention and I look forward to
>>>>>>>> your prompt response on this matter.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact
>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rahul Jain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Global Procurement Team
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
>>>>>>>> cid:image001.jpg@01CCB2FE.5C377F40]<
>>>>>>> http://www.softwareone.com/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>                              -- Helen Keller
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