On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 04/14/2014 09:57 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2014-04-14, at 12:46, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts
>>> <lui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, On 2014-04-14, at 11:33, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/14/2014 07:20 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2014-04-14, at 09:39, Samer Mansour <samer...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Odd, I thought this was pretty obvious:
>>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/why/why_sme.html  Its only 2
>>>>>>> clicks into the site. I want to learn more -> Businesses,
>>>>>>> third bullet down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This may be a product of our localized sites not existing /
>>>>>>> being updated. This person was inquiring for a Malaysian
>>>>>>> business, not sure if the person inquiring was also from
>>>>>>> Malaysia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Samer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Rob Weir
>>>>>>> <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This seems to be an FAQ item:  What are commercial terms
>>>>>>>> for AOO? Where is a good place to put this FAQ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being obvious, stating the repeated—then stating it again—is
>>>>>> no proof against the wilfully oblivious poster who feels
>>>>>> compelled to correspond personally with seeming humans to
>>>>>> obtain requisite legal permissions; in fact, it may be
>>>>>> legally required to get an actual reply from the copyright
>>>>>> holder that commercial usage of this free software is
>>>>>> permitted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least, that was my experience long long ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having a FAQ, as we did at Sun, helped--but only for this we
>>>>>> envisioned being like us. In the end, just spending time at
>>>>>> night with the outlier questions seemed most expeditious.
>>>>>> louis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe it would help to include an additional question on the "I
>>>>> want to learn more about OpenOffice" topic on the home page of
>>>>> the website -- "What is the cost for licenses?"
>>>>>
>>>>> or something similar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -1. A link to FAQ might do the trick. But how many queries of
>>>> this sort (clueless) do we actually get? Not that many, yes? I
>>>> would rather we keep our website as clean and direct as possible,
>>>> and invite people to contribute, yes, and to distribute, but
>>>> given *why* people come to the site, the simpler the better.
>>>> Analogues: Mozilla, for one but one could also point to other
>>>> open source apps that are commodified, e.g., Drupal,
>>>> https://drupal.org/. (Drupal's site is clearly not meant for the
>>>> naive user, however.)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, we've had a few of these in the last month or so,
>>> variations on "May I use OpenOffice commercially", "May I
>>> pre-install OpenOffice on hardware that I'm distributing", and "I'm
>>> a central buying authority and I have paperwork to fill out on all
>>> the software my customer uses".   We're dealing in these cases with
>>> bureaucrats, not familiar with open source software.  If there is
>>> not a box in their form for open source they might not know what to
>>> do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Egad. You mean, we *don't* have that sort of language already? I
>> figured we'd retained that and other clarifications from OOo days'
>> FAQ, not all of which related to Sun/Oracle or the licenses used. (I
>> helped write or edit most of the faq and maintained them). The faq
>> are still there, in svn, last I checked.
>>
>> But anyway, we used to have language stating what you just put. It
>> worked—for those who read it and got it.
>>
>> Louis
>
>
> Here's the "overview" FAQ page.
> https://www.openoffice.org/faq.html
>
> I honestly don't know right at the moment what it's linked from (I will
> check). Which of these items do you consider most beneficial?
>
> Right now, the WHY page seems to me the most straightforward way to get the
> right information to folks. I'll work on a better "teaser" for it from the
> home page today in a test area so we can take a look and evaluate.
>

There is also these FAQ's on the wiki:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ

Why do we have two places for FAQs?   I'm sure there was a good reason once...

-Rob

>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I doubt they'll find on their own whatever page we put this info
>>> in, but it would be a time saver just to be able to point them to
>>> it next time.
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>> -louis
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Jain, Rahul
>>>>>>>> <rahul.j...@softwareone.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Team,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please respond to our mail on urgent basis.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rahul Jain
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Global Procurement Team
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
>>>>>>>>> cid:image001.jpg@01CCB2FE.5C377F40]<
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.softwareone.com/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Global Vendor & Publisher Management *Sent:*
>>>>>>>>> Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:52 PM *To:*
>>>>>>>>> 'marketing-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org' *Subject:*
>>>>>>>>> FW: Quote requested-Open Office 3 *Importance:* High
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are waiting for your response.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rahul Jain
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Global Procurement Team
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
>>>>>>>>> cid:image001.jpg@01CCB2FE.5C377F40]<
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.softwareone.com/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Global Vendor & Publisher Management *Sent:*
>>>>>>>>> Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:09 PM *To:*
>>>>>>>>> 'marketing-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org' *Subject:*
>>>>>>>>> FW: Quote requested-Open Office 3 *Importance:* High
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are waiting for your response.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rahul Jain
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Global Procurement Team
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
>>>>>>>>> cid:image001.jpg@01CCB2FE.5C377F40]<
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.softwareone.com/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Global Vendor & Publisher Management *Sent:*
>>>>>>>>> Tuesday, April 8, 2014 4:33 PM *To:*
>>>>>>>>> 'marketing-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org' *Subject:*
>>>>>>>>> Quote requested-Open Office 3 *Importance:* High
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Team,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have an end user ‘Stamford College’ interested in
>>>>>>>>> below mentioned license for their environment in
>>>>>>>>> Malaysia. They have reached out to SoftwareONE Malaysia
>>>>>>>>> to see if we were able to procure this software for
>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SoftwareONE has earlier also has done business with you
>>>>>>>>> and we request
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to please provide the below details for this request:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sku No.*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Item Description*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Qty*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *List Price*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *(per user)*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Currency*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Language Code*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Operating System*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Version*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Reseller Discount*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *(in %)*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Customer Discount*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *(if applicable)*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Open Office 3(Educational prices)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1 Year Maintenance (Mandatory/ Optional)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3 Years Maintenance (Mandatory/ Optional)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Note: Please specify what all is included in
>>>>>>>>> Maintenance and if Maintenance is Recurring or not.*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Bill-to-SWO Location: SWO *Malaysia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Deploy-to-Customer Location: *Malaysia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We also request you to please share the reseller
>>>>>>>>> pricelist mentioning the reseller discount and price
>>>>>>>>> list validity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kindly mention your terms and conditions:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Price Validity
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Payment Terms
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Delivery Time
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Freight Charges
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Process of placing order
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Taxes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> EULA link
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Downgrade rights
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please also confirm whether the product is available
>>>>>>>>> *per user/ per server*?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your time and attention and I look
>>>>>>>>> forward to your prompt response on this matter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I can be of further assistance, please feel free to
>>>>>>>>> contact me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rahul Jain
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Global Procurement Team
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
>>>>>>>>> cid:image001.jpg@01CCB2FE.5C377F40]<
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.softwareone.com/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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