Although Andrea had made clear what the timeline is, hindsight suggests that, 
once the fact of an unopposed candidate emerged, there probably was need for a 
[DISCUSS] about that singular situation, with more time before calling a vote 
or perhaps not even requiring a [VOTE].

Instead, we have this apparent demonstration of deep-seated disagreement in the 
community.

It is amazing, to me, that with only one person standing up and willing to take 
the job, that there are folks who apparently would rather not have a PMC Chair 
than have the only person willing to commit to the job.  I also think that 
there is a serious misunderstanding of what it means to be PMC Chair.

I'm certain there is more to it than that, and we'll learn more in the next few 
days.  

I do think folks need to be clear that Andrea is leaving the Chair position and 
he is perfectly capable of asking the ASF Board to replace him if the Project 
is unable to do so.  An offer to wait for a replacement doesn't have to be on 
the table forever.  Of course, intervention by the Board invites all manner of 
unintended consequences, and I would think there is enough sense of community 
to avoid that risk.  I suppose we'll see.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Weir [mailto:r...@robweir.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 06:06
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
[ ... ]
> Ultimately the +1, 0 or -1 is what counts, indeed.
>
> But in the case of a -1, an explanation is always helpful to understand
> what's wrong (wrong timing, and why? wrong person, and why? do you see an
> option we didn't consider, and which one?). So it is very common practice,
> unless it's clear from the previous discussion, to provide it. And I would
> personally find it very useful.
>

Exactly.   That's why we have a discussion prior to a vote, to raise
issues and try to resolve them.   In most cases it is unusual to see a
-1 from someone who never mentioned any concern in the discussions.
Or are PMC Chair votes different?

-Rob


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