Well said Andrew - couldn’t agree more. I am a long time Flex developer (back to the beta) and have tried many times to get started with Royale, so that we can move all our existing apps over, but have fallen at the first hurdle every time.
We have now given up and are moving most over to Angular - but still have high hopes for Royale. Richard -- Richard Hirstle Sent with Airmail On 10 October 2019 at 8:10:44 am, Andrew Wetmore (cottag...@gmail.com) wrote: Instructions that require Ant or npm are not, in my humble opinion, entry-level instructions. I should not have to be an SDK constructor in order to use Royale to build the apps I want to build. The instructions need to be a TON clearer, and more obvious from the typical entry points where a new user would encounter Royale. We should possibly also add qualifiers to any statements that an IDE like Moonshine supports Royale. It does not support Royale as we deliver it, but only after it has been tweaked by processes that are obvious to those developing Royale but not to the world at large. Sorry if I sound irked, but consider that my reaction may mirror that of many who want to try Royale out but trip over the starting line. Andrew <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:52 PM Josh Tynjala <joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev> wrote: > The main royale-asjs README mentions the Adobe stuff as optional > dependencies, but the instructions seem to be aimed at contributors: > > > https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs#additional-prerequisites-for-swf-output > > > What a non-contributor user is expected to do appears to be mentioned on > this page (it requires running the InstallAdobeSDKs.xml Ant script): > > https://apache.github.io/royale-docs/get-started/download-royale > > I recall that if you install the npm version of Royale, it will ask to > download the Adobe dependencies for you. That's probably the easiest way > for a new user to get started. > > -- > Josh Tynjala > Bowler Hat LLC <https://bowlerhat.dev> > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 1:44 PM Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks @Josh Tynjala <joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev> . Do we say that > > anywhere in the instructions where a new user would run into it? > > > > > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > Virus-free. > > www.avast.com > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > > > <#m_-3106823410389824051_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:27 PM Josh Tynjala <joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev> > > wrote: > > > >> If you downloaded the js-swf binary distribution, you need to add the > >> Adobe > >> dependencies manually. We cannot distribute them. > >> > >> The playerglobal.swc in the js-only version is not the real one from > >> Adobe. > >> It's just a placeholder to make certain IDEs happy. I think it's just a > >> copy of js.swc. > >> > >> -- > >> Josh Tynjala > >> Bowler Hat LLC <https://bowlerhat.dev> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 1:16 PM Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > I wiped out the previous project and tried again with the Royale > JS-SWF > >> > version. When I try to compile the project in Moonshine for either JS > or > >> > Flash, I see this error message: "This SDK does not contains > >> > playerglobal.swc in frameworks\libs\player\11.7\playerglobal.swc. > >> Download > >> > playerglobal here". When I look in the package for the JS-only > version, > >> > playerglobal is there. I do not see it in the JS_SWF version. > >> > > >> > < > >> > > >> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > >> > > > >> > Virus-free. > >> > www.avast.com > >> > < > >> > > >> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > >> > > > >> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > >> > > >> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 3:07 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > When you build with AIR_HOME (which is required to create release > >> > > artifacts, since we want to produce both jsonly and js-swf in one > >> run), a > >> > > different target called "jsonly-package" run and tries to muck with > >> some > >> > > files before packaging the js-only artifacts. It could be that the > >> > > jsonly-package needs updating now that SWF SWCs are listed in > >> > > royale-config.xml. That means we've had this bug for months and > >> nobody > >> > > noticed until now. > >> > > > >> > > -Alex > >> > > > >> > > On 10/9/19, 9:38 AM, "Josh Tynjala" <joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev> > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > It looks like the Ant target that updates the library-path for > the > >> > > JS-only > >> > > build is called tweak-for-jsonly. Copied here for convenience: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpaste.apache.org%2Fasn0i&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C972794372a8a4037148008d74cd72cc9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637062359364655836&sdata=7h3ZHxgGsfZqP8kE22amKQYDr7%2BNyQa7EpoG86147uU%3D&reserved=0 > > >> > > > >> > > I see that it has unless="env.AIR_HOME", which means that this > >> target > >> > > is > >> > > skipped if the AIR_HOME environment variable is set. With that > in > >> > > mind, I'm > >> > > guessing that AIR_HOME needs to be set for the js-swf build, but > >> > > cleared > >> > > for the js-only build. > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Josh Tynjala > >> > > Bowler Hat LLC < > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbowlerhat.dev&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C972794372a8a4037148008d74cd72cc9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637062359364655836&sdata=Ih2P7zf2c%2BLPn5ktks02EE7k6s24RKcabVem7VqjWeg%3D&reserved=0 > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 6:52 AM Piotr Zarzycki < > >> > > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Hi Guys, > >> > > > > >> > > > It looks like we have broken royale-config in released SDK. > >> Andrew > >> > > raised > >> > > > in Moonshine GitHub issue that he couldn't build Hello World > >> > > project. I > >> > > > tried Moonshine and downloaded JS-only version of SDK. I get > >> > > following > >> > > > error [1]. > >> > > > I downloaded JS-SWF version and tried compile project again - > >> this > >> > > time it > >> > > > went fine. > >> > > > > >> > > > JS-only version of released 0.9.6 contains in section > >> > > <library-path> - > >> > > > list of swc. - Those swc doesn't exists in JS-only. > >> > > > > >> > > > Fragment of config > >> > > > > >> > > > > <library-path> > >> > > > > <path-element>libs/Basic.swc</path-element> > >> > > > > <path-element>libs/Binding.swc</path-element> > >> > > > > <path-element>libs/Charts.swc</path-element> > >> > > > > <path-element>libs/Collections.swc</path-element> > >> > > > > <path-element>libs/Core.swc</path-element> > >> > > > > .... > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > JS-only nightly build of 0.9.7 - doesn't contains in that > >> section > >> > > anything > >> > > > > >> > > > > <library-path> > >> > > > > </library-path> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > [1] > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpaste.apache.org%2F2lgvk&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C972794372a8a4037148008d74cd72cc9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637062359364655836&sdata=IebVohnQGkmg%2BAO2RJCS2LRTdP3LQE0NoQ%2BUt7xlOJI%3D&reserved=0 > > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks, > >> > > > -- > >> > > > > >> > > > Piotr Zarzycki > >> > > > > >> > > > Patreon: * > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C972794372a8a4037148008d74cd72cc9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637062359364655836&sdata=BmbfQaY1AjgUQk61TOlDZqRi1jWSJWDFaxgzaFiw1c4%3D&reserved=0 > > >> > > > < > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C972794372a8a4037148008d74cd72cc9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637062359364655836&sdata=BmbfQaY1AjgUQk61TOlDZqRi1jWSJWDFaxgzaFiw1c4%3D&reserved=0 > > >> > > >* > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Andrew Wetmore > >> > > >> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > < > >> > > >> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > >> > > > >> > Virus-free. > >> > www.avast.com > >> > < > >> > > >> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > >> > > > >> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > Andrew Wetmore > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > Virus-free. > > www.avast.com > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > > > <#m_-3106823410389824051_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > -- Andrew Wetmore http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
