Hi Richard (and others in the same wagon), I only can say one thing: If you're a former Flex user, I encourage you to not give up and try to get your path with Royale. I think it can be difficult to start, but at this point (6 months after your latest try). I think is worth it and we are in good shape. This days others like Fred or Dankishands are active asking and going forward. I think they are a good example of people trying this days and finding roadblocks but asking as well in a very good way to help us help them to solve it.
I think the final prize deserve the effort :) Just my 2 :) El jue., 10 oct. 2019 a las 9:00, Richard Hirstle (< richa...@designercollection.com.au>) escribió: > Hi Piotr > > Last time would be a good 6 months ago. I didn’t ask for help but I know > you all would > have been very helpful if I had - I see you doing so week in week out. > > We are using Angular for new work but still have a number of existing apps > we need > to port over, re - write or convert to air apps before the end of 2020. > > I am so keen to to see Royale work and gain acceptance not least because > of all the work you have all put into it. My point was not so much for my > sake > but to the wider issue of all the others that I am sure must give it a go, > fail and walk > away to something else. > > It is always so hard to step into the shoes of someone who is used to the > simple plug and play > set up of Flex to see what you need to do make it that easy, but for it to > gain the acceptance > and traction it deserves I agree with Andrew that we need to try. > > Cheers > > Richard > > > > Richard Hirstle > Managing Director > > > Ozone Interactive > PO Box 1108, Nairne SA 5252 > > > t: 08 8188 0342 > > > > www.designercollection.com.au > > > > > > > On 10 October 2019 at 4:04:27 pm, Piotr Zarzycki ( > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com) wrote: > > Hey Richard, > > When you were trying Royale - did you ask for help on dev list or in > private? > > I agree that at the beginning earlier it was a problem to start. Now that > barrier is a bit lower. If you need any help you can ask here or in > private > we are happy to help and get you move forward. > > Thanks, > Piotr > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 7:10 AM Richard Hirstle <rich...@o3i.com.au> > wrote: > > > Well said Andrew - couldn’t agree more. > > > > I am a long time Flex developer (back to the beta) and have tried > > many times to get started with Royale, so that we can move all our > existing > > apps over, but have fallen at the first hurdle every time. > > > > We have now given up and are moving most over to Angular - but still > > have high hopes for Royale. > > > > Richard > > > > -- > > Richard Hirstle > > Sent with Airmail > > > > On 10 October 2019 at 8:10:44 am, Andrew Wetmore (cottag...@gmail.com) > > wrote: > > > > Instructions that require Ant or npm are not, in my humble opinion, > > entry-level instructions. I should not have to be an SDK constructor in > > order to use Royale to build the apps I want to build. > > > > The instructions need to be a TON clearer, and more obvious from the > > typical entry points where a new user would encounter Royale. We should > > possibly also add qualifiers to any statements that an IDE like > Moonshine > > supports Royale. It does not support Royale as we deliver it, but only > > after it has been tweaked by processes that are obvious to those > > developing > > Royale but not to the world at large. > > > > Sorry if I sound irked, but consider that my reaction may mirror that > of > > many who want to try Royale out but trip over the starting line. > > > > Andrew > > > > < > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > > > > Virus-free. > > www.avast.com > > < > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:52 PM Josh Tynjala <joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev> > > > wrote: > > > > > The main royale-asjs README mentions the Adobe stuff as optional > > > dependencies, but the instructions seem to be aimed at contributors: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs#additional-prerequisites-for-swf-output > > > > > > > > > What a non-contributor user is expected to do appears to be mentioned > > on > > > this page (it requires running the InstallAdobeSDKs.xml Ant script): > > > > > > https://apache.github.io/royale-docs/get-started/download-royale > > > > > > I recall that if you install the npm version of Royale, it will ask > to > > > download the Adobe dependencies for you. That's probably the easiest > > way > > > for a new user to get started. > > > > > > -- > > > Josh Tynjala > > > Bowler Hat LLC <https://bowlerhat.dev> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 1:44 PM Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks @Josh Tynjala <joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev> . Do we say that > > > > anywhere in the instructions where a new user would run into it? > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > > > > > Virus-free. > > > > www.avast.com > > > > < > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > > > > > > > > > <#m_-3106823410389824051_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:27 PM Josh Tynjala < > joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> If you downloaded the js-swf binary distribution, you need to add > > the > > > >> Adobe > > > >> dependencies manually. We cannot distribute them. > > > >> > > > >> The playerglobal.swc in the js-only version is not the real one > from > > > >> Adobe. > > > >> It's just a placeholder to make certain IDEs happy. I think it's > just > > a > > > >> copy of js.swc. > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Josh Tynjala > > > >> Bowler Hat LLC <https://bowlerhat.dev> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 1:16 PM Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > I wiped out the previous project and tried again with the Royale > > > JS-SWF > > > >> > version. When I try to compile the project in Moonshine for > either > > JS > > > or > > > >> > Flash, I see this error message: "This SDK does not contains > > > >> > playerglobal.swc in > frameworks\libs\player\11.7\playerglobal.swc. > > > >> Download > > > >> > playerglobal here". When I look in the package for the JS-only > > > version, > > > >> > playerglobal is there. I do not see it in the JS_SWF version. > > > >> > > > > >> > < > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Virus-free. > > > >> > www.avast.com > > > >> > < > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > >> > > > > >> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 3:07 PM Alex Harui > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > When you build with AIR_HOME (which is required to create > > release > > > >> > > artifacts, since we want to produce both jsonly and js-swf in > > one > > > >> run), a > > > >> > > different target called "jsonly-package" run and tries to muck > > with > > > >> some > > > >> > > files before packaging the js-only artifacts. It could be that > > the > > > >> > > jsonly-package needs updating now that SWF SWCs are listed in > > > >> > > royale-config.xml. That means we've had this bug for months > and > > > >> nobody > > > >> > > noticed until now. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -Alex > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On 10/9/19, 9:38 AM, "Josh Tynjala" <joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > It looks like the Ant target that updates the library-path for > > > the > > > >> > > JS-only > > > >> > > build is called tweak-for-jsonly. Copied here for convenience: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpaste.apache.org%2Fasn0i&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C972794372a8a4037148008d74cd72cc9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637062359364655836&sdata=7h3ZHxgGsfZqP8kE22amKQYDr7%2BNyQa7EpoG86147uU%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I see that it has unless="env.AIR_HOME", which means that this > > > >> target > > > >> > > is > > > >> > > skipped if the AIR_HOME environment variable is set. With that > > > in > > > >> > > mind, I'm > > > >> > > guessing that AIR_HOME needs to be set for the js-swf build, > but > > > >> > > cleared > > > >> > > for the js-only build. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -- > > > >> > > Josh Tynjala > > > >> > > Bowler Hat LLC < > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbowlerhat.dev&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C972794372a8a4037148008d74cd72cc9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637062359364655836&sdata=Ih2P7zf2c%2BLPn5ktks02EE7k6s24RKcabVem7VqjWeg%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 6:52 AM Piotr Zarzycki < > > > >> > > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Hi Guys, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > It looks like we have broken royale-config in released SDK. > > > >> Andrew > > > >> > > raised > > > >> > > > in Moonshine GitHub issue that he couldn't build Hello World > > > >> > > project. I > > > >> > > > tried Moonshine and downloaded JS-only version of SDK. I get > > > >> > > following > > > >> > > > error [1]. > > > >> > > > I downloaded JS-SWF version and tried compile project again > - > > > >> this > > > >> > > time it > > > >> > > > went fine. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > JS-only version of released 0.9.6 contains in section > > > >> > > <library-path> - > > > >> > > > list of swc. - Those swc doesn't exists in JS-only. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Fragment of config > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > <library-path> > > > >> > > > > <path-element>libs/Basic.swc</path-element> > > > >> > > > > <path-element>libs/Binding.swc</path-element> > > > >> > > > > <path-element>libs/Charts.swc</path-element> > > > >> > > > > <path-element>libs/Collections.swc</path-element> > > > >> > > > > <path-element>libs/Core.swc</path-element> > > > >> > > > > .... > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > JS-only nightly build of 0.9.7 - doesn't contains in that > > > >> section > > > >> > > anything > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > <library-path> > > > >> > > > > </library-path> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > [1] > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpaste.apache.org%2F2lgvk&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C972794372a8a4037148008d74cd72cc9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637062359364655836&sdata=IebVohnQGkmg%2BAO2RJCS2LRTdP3LQE0NoQ%2BUt7xlOJI%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks, > > > >> > > > -- > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Piotr Zarzycki > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Patreon: * > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C972794372a8a4037148008d74cd72cc9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637062359364655836&sdata=BmbfQaY1AjgUQk61TOlDZqRi1jWSJWDFaxgzaFiw1c4%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > >> > > > < > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C972794372a8a4037148008d74cd72cc9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637062359364655836&sdata=BmbfQaY1AjgUQk61TOlDZqRi1jWSJWDFaxgzaFiw1c4%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > >> > > >* > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > Andrew Wetmore > > > >> > > > > >> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > < > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Virus-free. > > > >> > www.avast.com > > > >> > < > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Andrew Wetmore > > > > > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > > > > > Virus-free. > > > > www.avast.com > > > > < > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > > > > > > > > > <#m_-3106823410389824051_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Andrew Wetmore > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > > > > Virus-free. > > www.avast.com > > < > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > -- Carlos Rovira http://about.me/carlosrovira
