Hi Piotr, other option is to release a hot fix version like 0.9.6.1 if you want to release in few days what do you think?
El lun., 14 oct. 2019 a las 9:58, Piotr Zarzycki (<piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>) escribió: > Hey Guys, > > I'm willing to try release very soon another version of Royale just with > fix for our issue with broken royale config. If it won't happen next week I > will probably do that next month which will be I think enough to have > proper release not only with that fix. > > Anyway my question is a bit different. We are going to release Moonshine > where one of the update is that user will be able download latest release > of Apache Royale sdk trough our SDK Installer helper. > > We were thinking about fixing manually royale-config and provide fixed sdk, > but does it break some lincenses if we do that ? > > Thanks, > Piotr > > pt., 11 paź 2019 o 19:56 Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org> > napisał(a): > > > Hi Fred, > > > > many thanks for sharing all this with us. Very useful info there :) > > > > Since there's many things, I'll just to comment on few and hope other can > > talk about others. > > > > I didn't know about that video. I think Angel should report this kind of > > work here to show to the rest of community. Then we can share in > > official social media accounts. I'll do it later. Others in the community > > are working on videos I think there's at least 1 finished and others on > the > > works. Piotr can share more hopefully about that. Hope it come soon! :) > > > > Current 0.9.6 version delays one year since many work has been done on > make > > a better release process. We expect to release more often thanks to that > > effort done. Maybe each 2 month will be a good timeframe to do it. > > > > I think people like you is what we need this days. People playing, > asking, > > reporting, and as well helping others like you already did in SOF and > other > > channels. In this way we'll be able to make Royale bigger and better. > This > > is what make Open Source great that we can make it better thanks to all > of > > us. > > > > Last point. I think you have now the current knowledge to build from > > scratch with repos. I can give you support if you want. > > In that way you'll be able to develop the SDK if you want and submit more > > PRs. Eventually, you can be a committer and part of the team if you show > > things like motivation, knowledge on code base, activity,... > > > > Thanks! > > > > Carlos > > > > > > > > El jue., 10 oct. 2019 a las 23:06, <cont...@cristallium.com> escribió: > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > I would share my experience and feelings as a new and fresh user on > > > Apache Royale, hope it will help... > > > > > > The background : > > > > > > I'm a Flex developper since about 10 years. I love it because for me > > > it's (was...for flashplayer) the fastest way to do something that would > > > have same render on all browser. Also no lost time on script config or > > > something else, just launch FlexBuilder set sdk main folder path and > > > play with it, no headaches ...a real dream for a dev guy. At beginning > I > > > learned Flex essentialy with "TourDeFlex" and "Component style > > > explorer", and after with somes blogs and articles dealing with > > > componant life cycle and other interessing stuff > > > > > > All my customer are happy because of the short time of devs. When Adobe > > > announce end of life of flashplayer plugin in browser, solutions like > > > Angular, React, etc, seems to me and other devs guys from my > sourronding > > > a back to the past. I play a little with these frameworks but for me > > > it's not the solution : you need to know bootstrap, css, html, > > > javascript,etc..., this is a real nightmare... and dev time would be > > > multiply by 2 or 3 on projects even small or big ones. So we move ours > > > app to Air for those which doesn't need the browser use. > > > > > > Discover of Royale: > > > > > > I discover Royale because of search for alternate solutions to quick > > > make browser applications. As I remember, when I meet Michael Chaize 6 > > > or 7 years ago at Montpellier (France), he tells that FalconJS will be > > > the futur to output Flex content to Javascript. Unfortunaly I thought > it > > > was death because the lack of communication on it. Now I reborn using > > > Royale, play with it since 2 weeks when I have some time to learn more. > > > For me, Apache Royale has a huge potential, unfortunaly not enougth > > > know. > > > > > > At first looking, I throught that the sdk was far to do some usefull > > > advances things, the Royale site seemed to me a little desert, lack of > > > documentation, some page with empty content (this was my feeling, I > > > know, how the fantastic works you do, and go on I'm fan). Looking at > SOF > > > on "Apache Royale" tag throught me that there were a very small > > > community. But I discover TourDeJewel which made me want to know more > > > about it and do a quick try. But for this I wanted to do a very quick > > > dev test, I wanted to be able to run an helloword in about 15mins. I > > > search for a tutorial on how to quick start. The "Get Started" from > > > Royale site affraid me : help !!! I don't have time to read all theses > > > explanations to build an helloword... I was about to abandon the idea > to > > > do an helloword until I find this : > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bak1zoAXSMg It could be shorter and if > > > configs files were in a link it would be great. This video is for my > > > personnal case why succes to do an helloword and wanted to more and > more > > > dig on Apache Royale. Without this video perhaps I would go away from > > > Royale. > > > > > > Now : > > > > > > - Will I use Royale to convert big applications I have done ? > > > > > > Honestly, I don't know yet because I have more to learn, and some > > > aspects like Datagrid, itemRenderer, video play are unknow for me now. > > > (I don't know if it's right working, but I will test it) > > > > > > - Will I use Royale to make new browser content ? > > > > > > Yes ! Yes ! Certainly, all the mains components seems to be here (I > just > > > have difficult with scrollable Datagrid that I didn't succes to use and > > > I didn't try performance with big number of lines like 6000 lines). I > > > don't think I loose my time learning Royale because mains contributors > > > like you guys take care about questions from other users and efforts to > > > do your best, > > > > > > - Will I tell around me to use Royale ? > > > > > > Yes ! as soon I will show them what I have done with > > > > > > My others feelings, issues and thinkings: > > > > > > - Royale seems to me easy to use after do a first try and understanding > > > the difference between all library (js, j, mx, etc...), and concept > like > > > beads. I like to be able to compile without have to make big change in > > > config files and without spend my time on setting paths config. I don't > > > really know what's happen when I clic on debug button and I don't > really > > > want to know except if it's necessary. I discover that using browser > > > tools while debuging is a quick way to lookup css style in code. > > > > > > - sometimes I don't know where to put beads (beads dealing with > > > databindings or css does it global scope or not ...) > > > > > > - I see some reading on "reflection" (when using mx I beleve) but I > > > don't really know what is it and if i's important or not > > > > > > - sometimes I do a mix of j(jewel) and js(basic) in mxml but I don't > > > know if it's a good practice or not. It seems it's working except for > > > layouts > > > > > > - It isn't clear for me why there are 2 versions of SDK. One To create > > > JavaScript applications only and the other (JavaScript + Flash) . Why > > > need to create Flash application as we can't use it after 2020 ? Does > it > > > because the possibility to make Air apps ? Or the possibility to use a > > > swc as a library in javascript ? I will dig this later... > > > > > > - I don't know how components lifecycle are working to try to optimize > > > my code > > > > > > - are all the views created on startup ? (defered content, etc) > > > > > > - as the javascript seems to start before connect to debugger, it's > > > difficult to know what happens on a starting app. I suppose there is a > > > trick to wait for the debbuger connect and go on > > > > > > - my feeling is that Royale is ready to use in product environnement > and > > > I hope to see soon v1.0.0 > > > > > > - for new user I think a 10 mins video showing from scratch to do an > > > helloword with some IDE (Moonshine, vscode, etc) would be great (1 > video > > > by IDE) and facilitate the first step > > > > > > - I would prefer to have a new version of sdk every 2 months instead of > > > one every year with more content, for 2 reasons : first it should be > > > quick to adapt old code because not a lot of changed between versions > > > and I don't need to wait a long time for a sdk bug fix > > > > > > - I like++ "exemple" folder in SDK this is a real source of knowledge > on > > > how to use Royale > > > > > > - I would like to be able to build sdk on a simple clic to help you and > > > participate to fix obvious bug, but it seems to me not to be > > > straightforward (perhaps later), so I do a PR code only on easy things, > > > and prefer to bring you smallest tests cases of issues I found. > > > > > > One last word : I would like the existance of Royale to be more know, I > > > wish to Royale become more and more used by people, thanks to you guys > > > for all your hard work and please continue this way this is the road of > > > success > > > > > > Fred > > > > > > Le 10.10.2019 09:51, Harbs a écrit : > > > > > > > Hearing from new users what the roadblocks are, is very useful. To > me, > > > Royale feels very plug and play, but I know it well. It's hard to see > the > > > roadblocks to new users when you have been involved for a long time. > > > > > > > > Thinking back to the days I was learning Flex, I think it was easy to > > > learn it because: > > > > 1. Flex Builder (or Flash Builder -- depending when you started with > > it) > > > was fully integrated. The new project wizards were very helpful. > > > > 2. Flex in a Week was very useful to me to learn the concepts. I > > > remember going through Flex in a Week while I was in the hospital with > a > > > relative many years ago... > > > > 3. There were lots of blog posts and example code for many common use > > > cases. > > > > > > > > What do you think the most important point are for us to make Royale > > > more accessible? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Harbs > > > > > > > > -- > > Carlos Rovira > > http://about.me/carlosrovira > > > > > -- > > Piotr Zarzycki > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>* > -- Carlos Rovira http://about.me/carlosrovira
