> People who just click links and copy paste code snippets w/o being aware of 2.x/3.x sort of stuff
that is a fascinating phenomena, isn't it. On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You know what else i just noticed? > > > > http://gremlin.tinkerpop.com > > http://rexster.tinkerpop.com > > .... and so on > > > > all still point to the old wikis - should we consider changing those to > > have them all just go to the 3.x home page? > > I believe there are more people on 2.x than there are on 3.x. Thus, while > we think 2.x is basically MS-DOS, we shouldn't hinder others still relying > on those links. Over time things will wash out and also, if you are serious > about TinkerPop, you will know whats going on. People who just click links > and copy paste code snippets w/o being aware of 2.x/3.x sort of stuff > aren't worth the trouble we will cause those who legitimately still use 2.x > and the respective docs. > > Marko. > > > > > > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >>> but maybe perhaps Stephen would like to get a talk like that at > >> Cassandra Summit? > >> > >> hehe - i'm sure you could have found a way to make that topic > interesting. > >> i'm not so sure i could. :) > >> > >>> Psssht, the original Uni_pop _has Tinkerpop support, and a better > >> unicorn logo... > >> > >> ha! > >> > >>> Seriously though, for wider Tinkerpop adoption it would be cool to > have > >> a > >> general "Provider Template" along with the tutorial/blogpost : > >> > >> the "provider template" could be an addition to the maven archetypes we > >> have then you just do: > >> > >> mvn archetype:generate -DarchetypeGroupId=org.apache.tinkerpop > >> -DarchetypeArtifactId=gremlin-archetype-provider > -DarchetypeVersion=3.2.1 > >> -DgroupId=com.my-DartifactId=my-tinkerpop-implementation > >> > >> i'm not sure i want to volunteer to do that one, but that would be kinda > >> cool. the only downside is that it's a fair bit of trouble to maintain a > >> template/archetype for something that probably won't see a ton of use - > >> unless there are suddenly hundreds of tinkerpop implementations :) > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com > > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> More stuff --- > >>> > >>> One thing I think that we really need to drive home to providers is > >>> TraversalStrategies. That should be a blog post too. I've talked to two > >>> graph databases providers recently and both were concerned about > >>> performance through the TinkerPop API. They didn't know they could > write > >>> provider-specific strategies to bypass TinkerPop and talk directly to > their > >>> databases native APIs/optimizations. Once that was clear, both were > like > >>> "ahhhhhhh…." > >>> > >>> Marko. > >>> > >>> http://markorodriguez.com > >>> > >>> On May 25, 2016, at 9:18 AM, Ran Magen <rma...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Psssht, the original Uni_pop _has Tinkerpop support, and a better > >>> unicorn > >>>> logo... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Seriously though, for wider Tinkerpop adoption it would be cool to > >>> have a > >>>> general "Provider Template" along with the tutorial/blogpost : > >>>> > >>>> * Default `structure` implementation, with /*IMPLEMENT READ/WRITE/ETC > >>> HERE*/ in the relevant places. > >>>> > >>>> * Default `process` implemantions (i.e. `TraversalStrategy`s). This > >>> should probably be "commented out" at first, and "uncommented" after > the > >>> basic structure implementation is working. > >>>> * Default setup of test suites. > >>>> * Configurations > >>>> * pom.xml > >>>> * Gremlin Console plugin > >>>> * Utility scripts (e.g. deploy&run in console/server) > >>>> > >>>> On May 25 2016, at 5:36 pm, Jason Plurad <plur...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Agreed. A big on-going problem TinkerPop has is that people > invariably > >>>> stumble upon TinkerPop 2 and Blueprints/Pipes. If they find TP2, maybe > >>> they > >>>> presume it is dead, so they roll their own. > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>> I've been tinkering recently in this space, more specifically to > better > >>>> understand the gremlin-test suite in general. A blog post sounds like > a > >>>> good idea. I can take a stab at it. > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Dylan Millikin > >>>> <dylan.milli...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > Maybe working on referencing these pages via perhaps a blog post > >>> from > >>>> > someone would be cool. Something along the lines of "Creating a > >>> graph db > >>>> > with Tinkerpop" or some other variation that may get good hit > >>> results in > >>>> a > >>>> > google search. > >>>> > > >>>> > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Stephen Mallette > >>>> <spmalle...@gmail.com> > >>>> > wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> > > We've seen a lot of new graphs come out that don't do > >>> TinkerPop from > >>>> the > >>>> > > start. Perhaps they make a conscious decision not to - i > >>> dunno. I > >>>> just > >>>> > > wonder if part of the problem is the provider docs for doing > >>> an > >>>> > > implementation: > >>>> > > > >>>> > > < > >>> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.2.0-incubating/dev/provider/> > >>>> > > > >>>> > > are they easy enough to find? do folks understand them and > >>> what it > >>>> means > >>>> > to > >>>> > > be tinkerpop-enabled? the docs could probably be improved - > >>> any > >>>> graph > >>>> > > providers out there want to take a stab at it? in some ways > >>> your > >>>> external > >>>> > > experience at implementing might be helpful in improving > them. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Marko Rodriguez > >>>> <okramma...@gmail.com> > >>>> > > wrote: > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Hi, > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > See https://github.com/haifengl/unicorn > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > They say they support a "Gremlin-like API." It would be > >>> really > >>>> cool if > >>>> > > > they just implemented TinkerPop's Graph API. Perhaps > >>> someone > >>>> feels like > >>>> > > > creating a ticket at their main repo explaining how to > >>> go about > >>>> > > supporting > >>>> > > > TinkerPop? Or, even better, providing them a PR! > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > https://github.com/adplabs/unicorn > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > Take care, > >>>> > > > Marko. > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > <http://markorodriguez.com> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >
