+1 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:43 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > ok after discussing with Thomas we agreed that it would be better to agree to > support ranges of versions for IE and then decide which minimal version we > drop. > > Right now officially we support IE8/9 which is stupid since it means that > officially we don’t support the latest IE version (11). > > So the new vote is: > * Support all IE versions from the older version we support to the latest > version (i.e. IE8-11 as today). > > Then we can have a separate VOTE to drop IE8 support (I’ll send it > separately). > > Here’s my +1 > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > On 4 Sep 2014 at 16:34:48, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau > ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > >> +1 for IE9/10/11 >> +0 for IE8 (there is a lot of users but even Microsoft does not support it!) >> >> >> 2014-09-04 16:11 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne : >> >> > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Thomas Mortagne >> > wrote: >> > > What about supporting what Microsoft support ? That means not IE9/10/11 >> > only. >> > >> > Remove the "not" of course. >> > >> > > >> > > See >> > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2014/08/07/stay-up-to-date-with-internet-explorer.aspx >> > . >> > > >> > > IMO we should not do more that the own browser editor does. >> > > >> > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:40 PM, [email protected] >> > wrote: >> > >> Reviving this thread since we need to decide and lots of committers >> > haven’t voted yet! >> > >> >> > >> I’ve updated >> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy with >> > recent market share. >> > >> >> > >> Note that there are various other sources and they don’t seem to show >> > similar data: >> > >> - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers >> > >> - http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts_de_march%C3%A9_des_navigateurs_web >> > >> - http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php >> > >> >> > >> However I think they all show that if we wish to support 80% of users >> > we have to support about the 10 top browsers used and AFAICS this includes: >> > >> - IE8/9/10/11 >> > >> - FF latest >> > >> - Chrome latest >> > >> - Safari latest >> > >> >> > >> It seems market shared for IE8/9 are still high. However IE10 is less >> > high (probably because those who upgraded to it quickly upgraded to IE11)? >> > >> >> > >> So far we have the following votes: >> > >> - Andrea: +1 to support IE10/11 >> > >> - Vincent: +1 to support IE10/11 >> > >> - Marius: +1 to support IE11, +0 to support IE8/9/10 >> > >> >> > >> Thanks >> > >> -Vincent >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On 10 Jun 2014 at 09:08:43, [email protected] ([email protected] >> > (mailto:[email protected])) wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Hi Andrea/all, >> > >>> >> > >>> On 10 Jun 2014 at 08:46:45, Andreea Popescu ([email protected] >> > (mailto:[email protected])) wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> > Hello all, >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Following the "Start supporting IE10 and IE11" thread I’d like to >> > propose >> > >>> > to vote if we will support IE10 and IE11. >> > >>> >> > >>> FTR the thread in question is at >> > http://markmail.org/message/zjlbcfkl5cqnrwfk >> > >>> >> > >>> > The most important reasons for supporting these versions are: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > - Internet Explorer 8 and Internet Explorer 9 are still widely used >> > by >> > >>> > users, but many of them are currently choosing to update to IE10 and >> > IE11. >> > >>> > - according to netmarketshare.com (Browsers -> Desktop Share by >> > Version) >> > >>> > from a total of 100%, IE10 is used by 6.85% users and IE11 by 16.61% >> > users. >> > >>> > It’s true that IE10 is not as popular as the older versions (IE8 - >> > 20.85% >> > >>> > and IE9 - 8.89%), but its usage percentage is still significant. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Here’s my +1. >> > >>> >> > >>> On the above-mentioned thread Marius had proposed to support only the >> > latest version of each browser, which is basically what we’re doing except >> > for IE. The rationale is that it takes time to support all browsers and the >> > community can only do so much. Companies offering paid services on top of >> > XWiki could support the other browser versions for their customers. >> > >>> >> > >>> While I understand that, my POV is a bit different: I’d like that we >> > support the top browsers/versions used by the majority of people, because I >> > feel XWiki will be successful if the majority of people can use it without >> > problems. >> > >>> >> > >>> Looking at the graph at >> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy if >> > we were to support at least the top 6 browser/versions we would cover 70% >> > of the user base. For IE this means supporting IE8-11. Note that strangely >> > IE8 is the top browser in market shares, way above most of the others… Not >> > supporting it ATM would mean “loosing" 20%+ of users. If we have problems >> > supporting, say the top 10 browsers, then we can drop to top 6, if that’s >> > an issue, then to top 5, etc. ATM we’re supporting 5 browsers and with >> > IE10-11, this would mean raising to 7 browsers. I propose that we try it >> > with the additional 2 browsers (IE10-11) and see if it’s a burden for us or >> > it’s manageable. >> > >>> >> > >>> So there are 2 questions in here: >> > >>> - Starting the support for IE10-11: I’m +1 for that >> > >>> - Deciding if we want to support only one version for each browser or >> > instead support the highest browsers in marketshare. I’m +1 for the >> > marketshare approach. >> > >>> >> > >>> Thanks >> > >>> -Vincent >> > >>> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> devs mailing list >> > >> [email protected] >> > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Thomas Mortagne >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Thomas Mortagne >> > _______________________________________________ >> > devs mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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