+1 of course.
2014-09-04 16:45 GMT+02:00 Silvia Rusu <[email protected]>: > Hello, > > +1 as well. > > Thanks, > Silvia > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:43 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> > wrote: > > ok after discussing with Thomas we agreed that it would be better to > agree to support ranges of versions for IE and then decide which minimal > version we drop. > > > > Right now officially we support IE8/9 which is stupid since it means > that officially we don’t support the latest IE version (11). > > > > So the new vote is: > > * Support all IE versions from the older version we support to the > latest version (i.e. IE8-11 as today). > > > > Then we can have a separate VOTE to drop IE8 support (I’ll send it > separately). > > > > Here’s my +1 > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > > > On 4 Sep 2014 at 16:34:48, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau ( > [email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > > > >> +1 for IE9/10/11 > >> +0 for IE8 (there is a lot of users but even Microsoft does not support > it!) > >> > >> > >> 2014-09-04 16:11 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne : > >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Thomas Mortagne > >> > wrote: > >> > > What about supporting what Microsoft support ? That means not > IE9/10/11 > >> > only. > >> > > >> > Remove the "not" of course. > >> > > >> > > > >> > > See > >> > > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2014/08/07/stay-up-to-date-with-internet-explorer.aspx > >> > . > >> > > > >> > > IMO we should not do more that the own browser editor does. > >> > > > >> > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:40 PM, [email protected] > >> > wrote: > >> > >> Reviving this thread since we need to decide and lots of committers > >> > haven’t voted yet! > >> > >> > >> > >> I’ve updated > >> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy > with > >> > recent market share. > >> > >> > >> > >> Note that there are various other sources and they don’t seem to > show > >> > similar data: > >> > >> - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers > >> > >> - > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts_de_march%C3%A9_des_navigateurs_web > >> > >> - http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php > >> > >> > >> > >> However I think they all show that if we wish to support 80% of > users > >> > we have to support about the 10 top browsers used and AFAICS this > includes: > >> > >> - IE8/9/10/11 > >> > >> - FF latest > >> > >> - Chrome latest > >> > >> - Safari latest > >> > >> > >> > >> It seems market shared for IE8/9 are still high. However IE10 is > less > >> > high (probably because those who upgraded to it quickly upgraded to > IE11)? > >> > >> > >> > >> So far we have the following votes: > >> > >> - Andrea: +1 to support IE10/11 > >> > >> - Vincent: +1 to support IE10/11 > >> > >> - Marius: +1 to support IE11, +0 to support IE8/9/10 > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> -Vincent > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 10 Jun 2014 at 09:08:43, [email protected] ([email protected] > >> > (mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Hi Andrea/all, > >> > >>> > >> > >>> On 10 Jun 2014 at 08:46:45, Andreea Popescu ( > [email protected] > >> > (mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Hello all, > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > Following the "Start supporting IE10 and IE11" thread I’d like > to > >> > propose > >> > >>> > to vote if we will support IE10 and IE11. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> FTR the thread in question is at > >> > http://markmail.org/message/zjlbcfkl5cqnrwfk > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > The most important reasons for supporting these versions are: > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > - Internet Explorer 8 and Internet Explorer 9 are still widely > used > >> > by > >> > >>> > users, but many of them are currently choosing to update to > IE10 and > >> > IE11. > >> > >>> > - according to netmarketshare.com (Browsers -> Desktop Share by > >> > Version) > >> > >>> > from a total of 100%, IE10 is used by 6.85% users and IE11 by > 16.61% > >> > users. > >> > >>> > It’s true that IE10 is not as popular as the older versions > (IE8 - > >> > 20.85% > >> > >>> > and IE9 - 8.89%), but its usage percentage is still significant. > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > Here’s my +1. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> On the above-mentioned thread Marius had proposed to support only > the > >> > latest version of each browser, which is basically what we’re doing > except > >> > for IE. The rationale is that it takes time to support all browsers > and the > >> > community can only do so much. Companies offering paid services on > top of > >> > XWiki could support the other browser versions for their customers. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> While I understand that, my POV is a bit different: I’d like that > we > >> > support the top browsers/versions used by the majority of people, > because I > >> > feel XWiki will be successful if the majority of people can use it > without > >> > problems. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Looking at the graph at > >> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy > if > >> > we were to support at least the top 6 browser/versions we would cover > 70% > >> > of the user base. For IE this means supporting IE8-11. Note that > strangely > >> > IE8 is the top browser in market shares, way above most of the > others… Not > >> > supporting it ATM would mean “loosing" 20%+ of users. If we have > problems > >> > supporting, say the top 10 browsers, then we can drop to top 6, if > that’s > >> > an issue, then to top 5, etc. ATM we’re supporting 5 browsers and with > >> > IE10-11, this would mean raising to 7 browsers. I propose that we try > it > >> > with the additional 2 browsers (IE10-11) and see if it’s a burden for > us or > >> > it’s manageable. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> So there are 2 questions in here: > >> > >>> - Starting the support for IE10-11: I’m +1 for that > >> > >>> - Deciding if we want to support only one version for each > browser or > >> > instead support the highest browsers in marketshare. I’m +1 for the > >> > marketshare approach. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Thanks > >> > >>> -Vincent > >> > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> devs mailing list > >> > >> [email protected] > >> > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Thomas Mortagne > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Thomas Mortagne > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > devs mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devs mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
