> On 22 Jun 2017, at 17:52, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Thomas Mortagne > <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I would really like to still be able to use 1 tool, i.e. currently the mail >>> client, to read the mails for either devs or users. Sure, answering to >>> users should be done on discourse, but I would not like to have to juggle >>> yet another service. >> >> This does not have much to do with the users mailing list. As I >> explained to you on IRC you can very well receive all discourse >> messages by mail if you want which is exactly what I do (I never go to >> forum.xwiki.org directly, only from some mail I received). >> >>> >>> I understand that what you describe seems like a bug. Did we try to report >>> it to discourse? On a quick google I'm unable to find such a behavior >>> described. We could try reporting it otherwise. >>> > >>> P.S.: I have re-enabled the "Enable mailing list mode" option to the >>> discourse mailman user. Will watch it to see when/if it gets disabled again. > > I'm not a big fan of getting an close to unreadable duplicate of all > the discourse mails which is what I get right now.
That could be fixed easily: * Once the users list is read only we can remove the prefix in the mail * We can also configure the list to support HTML > We moved to a forum so let's live with it and let people decide if > they want mails not. If you want mails just enable them in your > profile. Yep > Receiving all messages from forum.xwiki.org without having an account > there is really not a valid use case. I agree > If we want to store discourse > messages on markmail then let's give direct markmail mail to discourse > instead of going trough users mailing list which does not make any > sense. It has the advantages of distributing the archiving: * markmail * nabble * gmane * xwiki mailman archives * etc I don’t think there’s such a markmail email… However, there’s a problem with Discourse as I mentioned (unless Edy found a solution). Personally I’m fine with not archiving discourse discussions through mailing list archives. It makes a bit harder for users to search in one place but quickly over time it’ll be ok. It’ll also be a bit harder for stats but I guess we can handle that too… Thanks -Vincent > >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Eduard >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 14:35, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 14:09, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Guys, I thought we were going to make the users list read-only, not >>>> disable >>>>>> it completely. This is now what was discussed, AFAIK. >>>>> >>>>> Where did you see that? At least that’s not my proposal. My proposal is >>>> to make it read only. >>>>> >>>>>> Right now, I haven't received a mail on the users list since 12th of >>>> June. >>>>> >>>>> I haven’t made it readonly yet so I don’t know if it’s normal or not. >>>> >>>> FTR just noticed 2 users have contacted me telling me they cannot post to >>>> the user list anymore. So someone must have changed something on the user >>>> list, but it’s not me :) >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> AFAIR, a proposed flow was to receive mails of the discussions and, if >>>> you >>>>>> want to reply, you'd follow the reply link in the mail an open the >>>>>> discourse browser window. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, only discourse could be able to publish to the list, all other list >>>>>> users would get rejected. >>>>> >>>>> The proposal was: >>>>> * Make the list readonly except for a given discourse user who’d have >>>> [email protected] as its email so that we can still archive discussions done >>>> with discourse on markmail, nabble, etc. >>>>> >>>>> However: >>>>> * I have configured a user having [email protected] as its email and in >>>> “mailing list mode” but after it sends its first mail, the “mailing list >>>> mode” is automatically disabled and I don’t know why. >>>>> >>>>> Conclusion so far: >>>>> * We need to make the list readonly. I’ll do this next week when I find >>>> some time. >>>>> * I don’t know how to fix the issue listed above >>>>> * In any case I don’t think it’s that important that we don’t archive >>>> discourse discussions on markmail so I’m fine with dropping this part. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Vincent >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Eduard >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2 Jun 2017, at 19:50, Marius Dumitru Florea < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:14 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi devs, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now that our forum is working well I’d like to propose to make the >>>> users >>>>>>>>> list readonly and move all users to the forum. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's a small thing but very annoying: is there a way to reply in-line? >>>>>>> When >>>>>>>> the post you want to reply to is long it's pretty hard to keep >>>> context if >>>>>>>> you can't reply in-line. The alternative is to copy and quote the part >>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> you are referring to, but it's not that nice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes it’s possible and very easy to do: simply select the text you wish >>>> to >>>>>>> reply to and you’ll see the option to reply to it :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Marius >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So the plan I’m proposing is: >>>>>>>>> * On Monday, make the users list readonly >>>>>>>>> * Send a last message on it, inviting users to move to the forum >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Note that we’ve already been putting a notice to all messages sent on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> users lists inviting users to move to the forum and this has been >>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>> for 2 weeks already. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My feeling is that we need to finalize the move now and prevent too >>>> much >>>>>>>>> scattering of user posts both on the users list and on the forum and >>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> them all on the forum ASAP. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Thomas Mortagne > > > > -- > Thomas Mortagne
