Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card.
moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk ----- Original Message ----- From: John Bradley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ...... Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Large number of rules sounds like suppression to me. The right of citizens to experiment and innovate freely without the government telling them where when and how would be a truly free society. AND TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE SAYING THAT EACH OF US SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT WE WANT, REGARDLESS OF THE INTEFERENCE, OR HARM IT MAY DO OTHERS. I know that is not what you are intending to say, but that often happens when rules are thrown out the window, and "suggestions" are completely ignored. A truly free society would believe in the golden rule "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" Man has been experienting with governments trying to emulate that since who-knows-when. It has never worked. There will always be those who push the envelope beyond the point, and without rules you have no cure for such behavior. My guess is that the vast majority of non US hams on this reflector do not feel supressed, but rather sorry for the US hams who don't have the freedom that other countries enjoy. We can only hope that the FCC and the ARRL will come to some understanding which would enable and foster new modes and further the hobby generally. IS THAT WHY THE UNITED STATES HAS LINES, IN AND OUT MOST OF OUR EMBASSIES, OF PERSONS WAITING IN LINE FOR THE RIGHT TO MOVE HERE, AND POTENTIALLY BECOME CITIZENS? No, I dont feel suppressed. I do get mad as heck when my own government bows down to the minority views of its amateurs, or any other particular group and suppresses the wishes of the majority, as the FCC is wont to do in this period of time. The balance scales of justice, for which we are world reknown appears ,all too often, to tip to those who would use our bands for their own viewpoint - disregarding the views of every other person. If you have been a member of this reflector for some time, you would realize that this is the umpteenth time this argument has gone round and round and takes the focus off what this reflector is really about. There have been some great things happening here lately, with all the interest in J65 and now the digital radio interactive sked page, thanks to the efforts of many members. I CANNOT DISCOUNT THE ADVANCEMENT THIS GROUP HAS BROUGHT TO AMATEUR RADIO AND THE DIGITAL MODES. The J65 mode has jumped out to the forefront recently, but remember, there are people on here that are not interested in that too. They have silently stood by while those of us who have played with it, have used the group to advance our knowledge and capabilities with that model...Some have been swung over to check into it themselves, a goodly percentage have continued, a few have dropped it, but only one or two has said "too much". Why muddy these waters with ARRL politics? WHY INDEED? Discussion of rules and regulations is an important part of being able to use these modes, these procedures and populating these bands. The majority of users here (and this is just a guess) are stateside amateurs, and this discussion is important to us, and indeed, what happens within our amateur population is important to the amateur population as a whole. I too, wish I had a place to only read what I want to see, but my wants are UNLIKE those of every other person. So, I guess I can go talk to myself, or remain here, and take in what I want, and ignore the rest. John VE5MU ----- Original Message ----- From: Rodney Kraft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......