I would hope that we continue to be progressive and develop new modes. Are you seriously saying that you oppose further development for keyboarding? And that we should no longer develop ARQ/robust modes because we have Pactor?
Several of the modes I had referred to, such as AM and phone patching are very old technology and would not be considered progressive by anyone that has been involved in amateur radio for any length of time. On the other hand, we need to use some restraint if some automated modes become so popular that they disrupt shared frequencies. Amateur radio is not like commercial frequencies, even though some of you want this to change. All automated systems have some who are using it illegally to send commercial information. To think otherwise is very naive. I am not suggesting that Winlink 2000 is any different than other similar systems, only that we have no way of knowing because they do not share that information. They have shared that it does happen and that they do, in fact, remove and block people. I am also not saying that hams should not use e-mail via radio on amateur frequencies. But I am saying that if it became extremely common and disruptive, then many of us would demand redress and I can guarantee you that we would be able to get the rules changed. In terms of Pactor IV, if you noticed Steve H.'s recent comments on that very subject, it is likely that they would move toward the 8PSK2400 single tone modulation in order to get increased speed. What did you think of the information in the single tone modem document? In terms of computer OS preferences, I like to use the one that is commonly available and well supported so that my monitor can actually show proper resolution out of the box. XP and Vista does this flawlessly, Linux can not do this yet. Eventually it should do it. I have no problem with closed and proprietary software or FLOSS. I look for value and practical use as the most important things. Almost all the applications I use are open source or at least free software, whether Open Office, Thunderbird, Firefox, Media Monkey, and many ham programs. It is a constant progression from where we were at the beginning of computers. It won't suddenly stop, but will continue to evolve. 73, Rick, KV9U Demetre SV1UY wrote: > > We already have plenty of narrow soundcard modes for QSOing so I don't > see the need for another one. We also have PACTOR I and II for QSOs > which are ARQ and robust narrow modes. Plenty to pick from. > > > > Yes OK let's ban everything progressive. > > > I am not aware of any illegal messages in WInlink2000. The authorities > in USA are able to trace messages as they pass through Internet from > the PMBOs, if this is your problem, so no need to worry about this. > They would have been caught by now if it was a matter of illegal > activities. > > So really only amateur traffic passes via the Winlink2000 system > otherwise they would have been caught by the authorities. Anyone who > mentions illegal traffic bashes Winlink2000, and you did. > > > Hmmm. So digital radio hams are not supposed to use ham radio for > e-mail. Well good job you are not the one who decides about our hobby > then. > > > > Well keep using Microsoft then (a closed and proprietary system, just > like an SCS modem) and stop complaining and preaching about open > systems. I like to use both Linux and Microsoft even if I had to pay > for Microsoft, just as I had to pay for my SCS modem, my HF radio etc, > and even if Linux is more difficult, although I find UBUNTU and > KUBUNTU a breeze to setup and use. > >