I had already grown tired of all of this before. But there is no right to rest yet if somebody wants to trick us into silence out of endlessly attempting to impose a senseless idea by making people grow tired of confronting such an absurdity once and again.
There is no worse kind of blindness than that of those who refuse to see. There are physical mechanisms in radio propagation that creates hidden stations. So do losses, distance, natural obstacles, and finite propagation paths. I even had thought it was a well known and accepted fact by knowledgeable people. But seems it isn't, at least, yet. While packet radio forwarding was more active, no one even dreamed of sitting on a forwarding frequency on any other mode. Radio has been proved not to be an ethernet backbone on which everybody hears everybody all around the world. Automatic stations do have a place in the bandplans, so, if automatic stations stay in those segments, I don't see reason, exception made of emergencies, if any, to go there where the automatic stations are, in any other mode and sit there. At least, in the well connected and informed developed world. Nobody in his right mind sits between the railroad tracks. Doing otherwise is sort of cheap irrational old west bragging. In such a case, if the train overruns you, you have no right to cry. Even when an activity detector such as what SCAMP has tested, and has been documented to work fairly well, as far as I know the code is not in the public domain and noone has either convinced the author to publish it or stepped forward to write out of scrap and openly publish a viable substitute for all possible cases. Also, there is reasonably founded suspicion by the Winlink team that if they used such a thing, there are people willing to create a sort of zombie network to cause intentional QRM to grind the Winlink network to halt. Such an attitude against pactor and Winlink DOES exist. Things could have been some other way if such a threat had not been created. So, lets get real. Science has already demonstrated that you can make rain bombarding clouds with silver iodine, but hardly, by howling to the moon. Facts are needed, in a material way. In the form of code, or a little hardware gadget that blocks the PTT whenever it hears a hummingbird f*rt half a mile away, reliably. And then, convince the proper people to use it. What all of this should be is about getting someone capable enough to come forward with a working solution available to all. So far, all the previous preaching has proven unable to achieve so. Haven't we had enough of it already? Jose, CO2JA --- Dave Bernstein wrote: >>>> I will stop debunking fallacious arguments when they cease to be made. > > 73, > > Dave, AA6YQ __________________________________________ Participe en Universidad 2008. 11 al 15 de febrero del 2008. Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.universidad2008.cu