Like that idea it's simple and it works.. Cheers!!
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 2014-01-27 17:17, Brittany Postnikoff wrote: >> If we allow people to pay in advance and they decide to quit, what then? > > We refund them. Always have. We find a way. :) > > Here's another suggestion: instead of giving people a discount for > paying in advance, why don't we charge people an administrative fee > whenever they pay us? If they pay us monthly, it's $45. If they pay for > 6 months, it's (6*$40) + $5. etc. That more accurately reflects the real > world. :) > > Ron > >> know the natural response to this idea is that we give them their money >> back, but this is not always easily done as funds may be tied up elsewhere. >> SkullSpace is stable and will be able to survive on our current earnings >> plan and we do have savings, but savings does not equate to money that is >> easily dispensed. When considering plans it is important to note the >> extremes and whether we can ride through that easily. For example, 10 >> people pay a bunch of money up front for the year, two months later we make >> an investment to the space such as a lazer engraver or what have you. Month >> three those people decide to quit and all of a sudden we have to dispense >> over four thousand dollars to people leaving. This is a possibility we need >> to be aware of. >> >> The other point about making a piece of software to do automation is great. >> Considering we are a hackerspace this is a wonderful idea! The offer to >> maybe turn this into a Ruby project is great as well. If someone would be >> willing to step up and create an operations team for this, they would be my >> temporary SkullSpace hero. (Until next obstacle comes and someone helps us >> clear it) I for one volunteer as a tribute to help get part of this done. >> >> I would really like to see us stay as a month to month organization because >> that would best display our expenses and incomes in a directly parallel >> comparison. We are not a big corporate entity that is amortizing things >> over years or other large periods, so I would like to say even in "real >> world" scenarios, which SkullSpace definitely is, that this is likely not >> feasible due to the size, structure, and purpose of the SkullSpace >> community. >> >> --BP >> >>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Aemilianus Kehler <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Ian... There will always be more costs to those that can't budget properly >>> and prepay in advance... You'll see this in every possible business >>> transaction.. Or how about we just go straight to run in a credit system >>> like most of the business world and offer a deal to those that day their >>> debt early... Perfect to get those in accounting the practice it as it >>> would be in the "real" world... One thing I never understood in business.. >>> Borrow from us and repay with 2 weeks and you get a better deal than just >>> paying for it straight up... Uhh what? >>> >>> Cheers!! >>> >>>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Mark Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 27/01/14 03:02 PM, Ian Trump wrote: >>>>> IMHO Monthly PAD is preferred - less overhead to worry about, tracking >>>>> anniversaries of renewal or issuing refunds. Were a Month to Month >>>>> organization. Discounts are a pain in the ass and punish those who don't >>>>> have sufficient means to up front $480.00 >>>> >>>> Even with banking fees, anyone we can get on PAD is ideal for >>> administrative reasons, but some people are always going to turn it down as >>> an option and pay irregularly. >>>> >>>> So how best to deal with them. >>>> >>>> Getting people who aren't on PAD to pay in bigger chucks should reduce >>> the admin overhead in dealing with them. It's not fair to Skullspace to >>> have so much admin overhead, which technology can help with, but can't >>> eliminate. >>>> >>>> But a 1/6 discount (10 out of 12 months example) [16%!] is going too >>> steep, enough that it does feel like a kick in the teeth to everybody else. >>>> >>>> Should be big enough to incentive some people who are already paying >>> irregularly every month to step up and do this (bi-monthly, quarterly, >>> annual), but not so big that we got people dropping their monthly PADs or >>> big enough that people who pay irregular feel it out-paces the admin burden >>> they create. Sweet spot might be closer to where those PAD bank fees are >>> at, like 2%... not 16%. >>>> >>>> And however done, shouldn't strike me as bylaw territory, should be in >>> the board's purview. >>>> (Bylaw fix needed if the board doesn't have some discretion on this... >>> not formally moving something...) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
