Jim.,

>Frankly,, lets call a spade a spade,, the only reason we require any kind
>of  ID or verification is simply incase your payment goes wrong -- then >we
have some means of finding you and extracting the payment for the >bullion
you
> received (on your word that your payment was good).

   You may not hear this, but I am giving you a standing ovation as this is
precisely what I have been blabbering (but not quite so eloquently
parlaying) about.  I do not care WHO someone IS, or WHERE they are FROM, all
I want to know is WHERE can I find the person if they try to scam my
company.  People who do not accept fiat monies for conversion to gold do not
seem to understand this.

(By the way, can I borrow that spade to pay a visit to a few mutual
*friends* we both know in a quaint little California town???  I promise to
wash it off when I am finished with it!) ;0)

    If people were honest about the payments that they sent, I would not
care if they sent it to me from California's State Penitentiary because it
would be a GOOD payment.  The ONLY reason we need to id people is because of
the rampant fraud going on out there.

    I will stop clapping now!

      Eric


----- Original Message -----
From: Goldfinger Coin and Bullion Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: e-gold Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 5:45 PM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: SR & Identity


> >>
> >>Fact is, any method of payment to an MM (besides cash in hand) leaves
> >>a trail back to the payer. Even an "anonymous" reputation system that
> >>allowed me to accept a CC or cheque from someone without knowing his
> >>identity, would result in the banking transactions revealing his
> >>identity to me, so there would be really no point in using the
> >>"anonymous" system in the first place!
> >>
> >>Thus, unless the buyer was using cash to pay me, it would be pointless
> >>to use an "anonymous" reputation system, and if he was using cash to
> >>pay me... I wouldn't need to know his reputation anyway!
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Sidd.
>
>
>
> Precisely,
>

> Gold has always been a bearer instrument, and should stay that way -- what
> this whole discussion boils down to is this:
>
> I really do not care who you are (and have no desire to find out),, so
long
> as you pay for the gold with Cash -- either FRN's or Bank Wire.
>
> It's real simple -- If you want to retain anonymity -- then do not request
> to settle with anything else but Cash, period.  Then the exchange provider
> doesn't have to worry about tracking you down if the payment goes bad,,
> because the payment will not go bad.
>
> >
> Now,, once we have established a business relationship and completed some
> trades without problems,, then we have some mutual trust built up between
us
> and we both may feel comfortable with alternative means of settlement.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
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