In a message dated 98-10-16 08:39:12 EDT, you write:

<< Totally missing the point again I see. "Being frugal" with your money
 doesnt do a damn bit of good if your without a roof over your head! If you
 dont live in housing conducive to humane living "being frugal" doesnt even
 broach the "wear do I go to the bathroom today?" problem!
 
 You dont even get it do you.
  >>
Hi!

Bertina, if you think that I do not get it - please explain IT?  I said that
if people were more educated they could get better jobs, which usually means
better pays, which usually means a better standard of living.  Given any
income and using it wisely - frugally, definitely helps - may not cure all the
world's ills - but could help!  I did not say that if you have no house you
should concentrate on being frugal?  Shelter first, then the basics - of
course!  

peace!
Angela
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 16 08:55:29 1998
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:55:16 EDT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Family size & sustainability

In a message dated 98-10-16 08:44:27 EDT, you write:

<< Angela if education doesnt teach you that you cannot sustain a family on
 an ecosystem thats dying out I dont know what will!
 
 Bertina
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >>
Hi 

Bertina, maybe we should focus on the people who are not getting an
environmental awareness education!  Focus of the poor people who are not
getting the education and jobs they need to provide a decent standard of
living.  Help them!  Get the word out to them!  Work with organizations that
help them - there are many Christian Missions that work with the poor,
undereducated and homeless!  I already know about the ecocrisis and
overpopulation - that is why I figured into my own decision not to have more
children at this time - Now we tell the people (and help them) who do not know
the who, what, where and why of overpopulation and the eco-crisis - Get it?

Thanks!
Angela
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 16 09:01:55 1998
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:01:17 EDT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: family size,etc.

In a message dated 98-10-16 08:27:32 EDT, you write:

<< 
 This thread has been so extremely heteronormative and heterosexist.
 
 dp
  >>

I guess if you were  homosexual you would automatically be  for population
control - no pro-creation?  

Homosexuals wouldn't be having any children of their own so no one else should
either?  How convenient!

This is a very important topic concerning LIFE itself - How sad you tried to
narrow it down to a heterosexual issue!  All people should be concerned about
the eco-crisis - it affects us all!  No one is excluded from this tragedy!  If
overpopulation effects the eco-crisis and the eco-crisis effects everyone -
then overpopulation effects everyone!

peace!
Angela

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