Date sent: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:51:47 EDT
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> In a message dated 98-10-16 08:39:12 EDT, you write:
>
> << Totally missing the point again I see. "Being frugal" with your money
> doesnt do a damn bit of good if your without a roof over your head! If you
> dont live in housing conducive to humane living "being frugal" doesnt even
> broach the "wear do I go to the bathroom today?" problem!
>
> You dont even get it do you.
> >>
> Hi!
>
> Bertina, if you think that I do not get it - please explain IT? I said that
> if people were more educated they could get better jobs, which usually means
> better pays, which usually means a better standard of living. Given any
> income and using it wisely - frugally, definitely helps - may not cure all the
> world's ills - but could help! I did not say that if you have no house you
> should concentrate on being frugal? Shelter first, then the basics - of
> course!
>
> peace!
> Angela
And a dying ecosystem is going to support the infrastructure for all
these good jobs for these teeming billions, I suppose! Joe
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 16 11:44:49 1998
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Subject: RE: family size,etc.
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> why do you assume that non-heterosexual people would be against
> procreation. that is ridiculous and actually quite bigoted. Lesbians,
> gay men, bisexuals, transgendered people want all kinds of things, just
> like all people. Some might decide never to have children, just as
> some straight people might decide this. Some of us might want many
> children. It takes more than sperm and a womb to have a family.
> Please put some thought into what you said and the hatred and violence
> this attitude has had on people.
>
I agree, except to assert that those who want many children and
choose to have them themselves rather than to adopt, be they
hetero, homo, trans or bi, are being irresponsible and doing the rest
of us a disservice. Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 11:01 AM
> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT
> Subject: Re: family size,etc.
>
> In a message dated 98-10-16 08:27:32 EDT, you write:
>
> <<
> This thread has been so extremely heteronormative and heterosexist.
>
> dp
> >>
>
> I guess if you were homosexual you would automatically be for
> population
> control - no pro-creation?
>
> Homosexuals wouldn't be having any children of their own so no one else
> should
> either? How convenient!
>
> This is a very important topic concerning LIFE itself - How sad you
> tried to
> narrow it down to a heterosexual issue! All people should be concerned
> about
> the eco-crisis - it affects us all! No one is excluded from this
> tragedy! If
> overpopulation effects the eco-crisis and the eco-crisis effects
> everyone -
> then overpopulation effects everyone!
>
> peace!
> Angela
