> The turtle.py module is minimal, and isn't going to be taken out of the > standard > distribution just because Arthur or Kirby don't like it.
I never ever said I "don't like" turtle.py nor did I suggest deleting it from the Standard Library. Not once. I discussed it's being broken on Windows (the only platform on which I've played with it), but we already know that. I was even willing to blame Windows (then I was corrected). What I *did* say is: (1) turtle graphics is valuable, popular, here to stay (2) I don't personally use the turtle graphics approach at present (3) I don't believe Python *must* have better turtle in order to be useful in education, including for beginners. But if it *does* gain stronger turtle powers, so much the better. I know a lot of educators will be happier if this occurs. And I've learned about many turtle projects I didn't even know about. I said I'd stop making remarks on this topic because someone would misconstrue my position as "anti-turtle". I see I didn't stop soon enough. The misinterpretation of my remarks has already gained a foothold. Please do not repeat the baseless rumor that I am either anti-turtle or have ever recommended deleting turtle.py or whatever somebody said I said. And do not confuse my views with Arthur's. He and I disagree on many issues. Kirby _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig
