On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 10:38 +0200, Jane Weideman wrote: > Hi all, > > This is to follow on from our mailing list names discussion from > yesterday - which was also discussed in our weekly meeting. > > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 15:46 +1100, Dan McGarry wrote: > > > > > >>The reasoning was to create the devel channels first, and if when the > > >>traffic grew to big to manage we would spilt the user support and > > >>discussion off. > > > > > > I remember that, yes. What I discussed with Oli, is that less people are > > > subscribing, because they see the list as a -devel list such as > > > ubuntu-devel and debian-devel, and not a support list. I've communicated > > > with many people who haven't joined the list yet, because of this > > > perception. > > > > Seconded. I subscribed with the expectation that I'd see a bunch of > > developers conversing. In fact, lists.ubuntu.com explicitly states > > "Edubuntu developer discussion": > > > > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/> > > Ok, it is clear to me that we are starting to have distinct and discreet > groups of 'users' vs 'developers', and while some may fall into both > categories, we definitely have people who would prefer to be in only one > or the other group. > > However, it is not clear whether 'devel' and 'users' completely covers > it, since it seems much of the 'user' camp is proposing a place for talk > of Education topics and curriculum development. > > Note Susan Addington's comments: > "I'm a user, and definitely have no time to deal with how to get sound > cards to work, etc. (I just throw out those technical e-mails.) I'm > waiting until the system is really easy to install to even try it in a > lab. > > I _am_, however, interested in developing curriculum that uses this > technology, and devising ways for teachers to adopt these new ideas. > (Without teachers, this won't happen.)" > > Traditionally 'users' is a place for technical support for users. Susan > is not looking for this kind of discussion on the 'users' list she is > envisioning. > > > I should also note that I think the decision to start with only one list > > is a good one. It improves the sense of community and helps to avoid the > > (somewhat false) distinction between users and developers. > > > > To sum up, this seems to be a 'truth in advertising' issue, if you will, > > and not 'whither Edubuntu?' > > > > > I don't think so. I suggested to Oli that we get an additional > > > 'edubuntu' list. He suggested that we rename the current one instead, > > > which would make sense, since he'd be on the 'normal' list anyway :) > > > > That seems like it would resolve the issue fairly easily. > > Jeff Waugh (our mailing list administrator) has asked us not to create a > single "edubuntu" list as this goes against the current norms. > > He proposes 2 lists, 'edubuntu-devel' and 'edubuntu'users'. > > With this in mind it is unlikely we can change the current norms and use > totally diff conventions like ' edubuntu-tech' and 'edubuntu-educators' > etc. > > Is creating *3* lists the solution? > 'edubuntu-devel' > 'edubuntu'users' and > 'edubuntu-educators' > ???
Before this gets forgotten ... Can I get a vote response for (or against): Changing our mailing lists to, 1) Be slip into 'edubuntu-devel' and 'edubuntu-users' lists 2) Subscribe all current subscribers to edubuntu-users - those that wants to be on devel as well/instead will need to explicitly subscribe there. That ok? -- JaneW _____________ Jane Weideman mobile: +27 83 779 7800 Canonical Ltd. -- edubuntu-devel mailing list edubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel