I just installed the new FW 3.44 and radio DID NOT FAIL,download was smooth and easy,LIKE ALL OTHERS,inmediately noticed NR works better than before as well as the NB,audio quality did not change at all,still remains from 50 to 4000Hz,will test the rest of the features reported to have improved,so far as all others this was a reliable Beta FW,so nobody will have to be afraid to do this process which is safe and stable. AD4C
"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" --- On Sat, 10/17/09, Guy Olinger K2AV <olin...@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: Guy Olinger K2AV <olin...@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware To: "Lee Trout" <trou...@gmail.com> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 2:08 PM This gets to the point where someone wants new PRODUCTION code and features every couple of months. Consider that the FT-1000MP had exactly one release. The FT1000MP MkV had one release. Ad nauseum. Since there is NO precedent of any ham transceiver folding in frequent new major firmware features mid-model except the K3, there is no precedent of a reasonable release schedule for ham transceiver PRODUCTION software. Elecraft is setting the new standard for this. There is no coding on the planet as difficult as code for hardware, which requires efficiency, compactness, total attention to timing, vast creativity, and extensive testing. Where I last worked, we had the size (over 20,000 employees) to put 2000-3000 full-time employees in FULL-TIME code testing. Frankly, some of the stuff Wayne is putting out, I would have 25 or more full time testers, working on a plan, if the release schedule was compact. This kind of investment makes financial sense for something with 100,000+ eventual installations. It does not make sense for a product with 2000 units of 3k $ per year, the loaded cost of testing exceeding the gross. That kind of investment in the tiny, tiny niche that is ham radio transceivers is not possible. If it was REQUIRED, K3 would simply not happen. You'd be stuck with the Ikenyu single firmware per model, a lean feature set, with little change between "models" because a rich and substantially changing feature set cannot be fully tested without destroying the profit margins or raising prices to military levels. What we have in Elecraft is an in-between strategy, created from a customer base of kit-builders, where those who WANT to play beta fill in the un-feasible full-time testing base to make more-than-one-firmware-release-per-model possible. Among some there seems to be little patience or appreciation of the difficulty of the work. Beyond that, pre-beta testers are catching stuff (note skipped numbers between public betas), "modifying" our rigs in a way no longer possible ourselves, and enjoying them. So, please, DO beta and like it (if you find a problem, report it), or DON'T do beta and wait for the rest of us to hammer it out. Just try not to spoil it for the rest of us. 73, Guy. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Lee Trout <trou...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for your response Dave and Don, but I do not agree. I see too many > complaints of one sort or another on the reflector about problems with beta > releases. I don't like computers and use them minimally and thus have no > interest in loading in a update to experiment with, then reverting back to > earlier version in case of problems -- that is what beta testers enjoy > doing. And I suspect there are quite a few guys like me. > > If everyone is supposed to load the beta releases, what is the purpose of a > regular release? And Don, has there been no stable beta release sine May > that could be issued as the new production release? > > 73, Lee (K9CM) > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
