> Hi Ed,
> 
> I fully agree that membrane keypads are one of the most common places
> where a finger could discharge to the instrument.
> 
> However, I disagree that contact discharge is the appropriate test method
> for these surfaces. Current state of the art in test instruments and
> methods dictates air discharge testing of such surfaces.     Just for
> clarity's sake, when I say air discharge testing, I mean approaching the
> device under test with a blunt, charged ESD gun tip.  If the device under
> test has a weak insulator, an air discharge will occur. 
> 
> The IEC standards use contact discharge testing as the "preferred" method
> because it is more repeatable than air discharge testing.  The IEC
> standards recognize air discharge testing on surfaces that won't allow a
> contact discharge.   
> 
> I could write a book explaining why air discharge testing is the closest
> simulation to real life (unless you're in a vacuum) and another book about
> why contact discharge is used as  a repeatable model for air discharges
> but I'll spare everyone the details. I could explain more fully if anyone
> is interested.
> 
> The manual for my ESD gun (Keytek MiniZap, which is a compliance grade
> instrument) recommends against contact discharges to insulated surfaces as
> it has the potential to damage the high voltage relay in the product.  I
> can't speak for other guns. 
> .  
> For insulated membrane switches, the IEC standards and the equipment that
> I have dictates that I use air discharge testing.  
> 
> Until a better test method comes along, I stand by my original answer to
> Dan's question.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Chris
> 
> P.S.  Being forever curious,  If anyone knows of an ESD simulator or test
> method that does perform contact discharges to insulated surfaces, I'd
> love to hear about it.  I'm sure that it would be of interest to the group
> as well. 
> 
> 
> ************************ Ed's email attached *****************************
> 
> 
> Chris:
> 
> I don't understand why a membrane switchpad would not be tested for
> contact
> discharge. It think that this is the absolutely most likely place where a
> finger, attached to a charged human body, might be applied to the EUT. It
> seems to me that you would want to be testing the dielectric strength of
> the
> insulation over the keypad conductive traces.
> 
> The issue of whether a triggering of the testing gun, without a completed
> discharge current, would damage the gun, isn't relevant to the need for
> the
> test. Dumping 15 or 20 kV to a probe tip, while not exactly trivial, still
> shouldn't be critically sensitive to load conditions. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ed
> 

>    

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