> On Wednesday 12 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>I hope it's not too off-topic, as it's not about EMC2, but this is a
>> forum
>>of machinists (please let me know if there are intelligent,
>>well-trafficked lists more intended for this kind of talk).
>>
>>Anyway, I suddenly realized today that I'm not blowing through my money
>>fast enough ;) and started to look into home anodization kits, and
>> setups,
>>and that lead me eventually to vibratory polishers.
>>
>>The first things I found were the Burr King bench tops, which were great,
>>but quite pricey:
>>
>>http://burrking.thomasnet.com/viewitems/vibratory-bowls-and-chambers/vibra-k
>>ing-174-bench-top-bowls?&forward=1#
>>
>>Then my gun enthusiast office-mate pointed me toward cheap alternatives:
>>
>>http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?tabid=1&categoryid=19906&categor
>>ystring=9315***731***695***8940***&utm_source=facasetumbler&utm_medium=reloa
>>dingcat
>>
>>I found some videos of them cleaning bullet casings, their usual use for
>>gun folk:
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni1cmZtwja0
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjGQlKyulqU
>>
>>It looks like decent action, and it fits my price/quietness (live in a
>>tightly-packed LA neighborhood) points. Has anyone in here had experience
>>with this kind of thing? Will it be enough for me? Can these things
>> handle
>>deburring well enough? Whatever I get, I'll find reason to pine for
>> bigger
>>at some point (just as with my mini-mill), but for now, it would be great
>>to deburr, and polish up all of the smaller things I'm making out of
>>6061-T6.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>-Gary
>>
> I have the Lyman version, and have used it on steel, but the media
> abrasiveness I have, the red or green stuff, needs help for steel, 2 days
> didn't cut the hot roll scale off, just polished the edges a bit.  It
> might
> be just the ticket for alu parts though.  If it wasn't for the weight of
> river sand spoiling the jiggle, it might work pretty decent on steel but
> I've
> not actually tried it myself.  I also have to run it outside as the hum
> pretty well permeates the house when its sitting on a rug on the cement
> floor
> of the basement.
>
> --
> Cheers, Gene

I have a Sherline 5400 mini-mill, so steel is just about of the question
anyway. In fact, I have trouble with more than 0.002" deep cuts in 6061,
even with a tiny 1/8" bit. It's truly a hobby-level machine. My dream is
to create some very clever, small, marketable things with it, to help save
up for a sweet CNC knee mill, and then I can think about RP ABS machines,
and powerful laser/water jet engravers/cutters! :)

I've seen many Lymans in my hunt, and with 0 experience, am unsure which
one would be comparable in noise, power, etc., to the Harbor Freight
model, and which might be better suited for my needs. The HF model is so
cheap, though, I think it's worth giving it a shot. I can always find an
alternate use for it, or Ebay it off to someone needing to clean shell
casings if it doesn't work out for me. Then I can reveal any good
experiences here.

The noise permeating the house is a bit distressing. If I have to run
something for say, 10 hours, it would be nice to just let it run into the
late evening to finish up. I'm doing all of this mini machining in my
office, in a house with all wood floors (so no sound is ever trapped by
rugs, or carpets), but I've been surprised how much sound is killed just
by the ancient walls. I had the mill cutting at full throttle (2800RPM),
and this shopvac running at around 11PM this weekend:

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100388637&marketID=48&locStoreNum=6611&categoryID=524502

I decided to finally see how loud it was for the neighbors, and went
outside, and really couldn't hear it much when between our houses. Inside
their house, through yet another wall, it would definitely be entirely
silent. The ambient neighborhood sounds of traffic, and wind were louder
than the very faint whir coming from my windows.

Having lived in an apartment for years, with seemingly acoustically
transparent walls, I've done a lot of research into soundproofing. One of
the things I'm still keen to try with everything from the shopvac, to this
vibratory bowl is anti-vibe mats, like these:

http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/flooring.htm

And even foot pads, like these:

http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/vibrationpads.htm

Another thing I'd love to try to really kill machine noise is a method I
found on that site for building nesting boxes. Each is missing its bottom,
and one side, and you nest them such that each larger box slides over its
smaller, child box's open end, creating an opening that zig-zags back and
forth from the inside to the out. Air can travel easily through this, but
sound doesn't like turning corners. If you line the insides of the boxes
with that anti-vibe, or sound-trapping stuff, and set it all up on a sheet
of it on the floor, it's supposed to tremendously deaden machine sound.
This would be great for something like a vacuum, which can be hidden away.
The biggest problem is heat, but fans could probably be added to the setup
to push air through the zig-zag channel. Maybe I could even run a pipe in
there from my portable A/C unit to blow out the heat.

Anyway, thanks for the info!
-Gary


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