On Thursday 13 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Wednesday 12 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>I hope it's not too off-topic, as it's not about EMC2, but this is a
>>> forum
>>>of machinists (please let me know if there are intelligent,
>>>well-trafficked lists more intended for this kind of talk).
>>>
>>>Anyway, I suddenly realized today that I'm not blowing through my money
>>>fast enough ;) and started to look into home anodization kits, and
>>> setups,
>>>and that lead me eventually to vibratory polishers.
>>>
>>>The first things I found were the Burr King bench tops, which were great,
>>>but quite pricey:
>>>
>>>http://burrking.thomasnet.com/viewitems/vibratory-bowls-and-chambers/vibra
>>>-k ing-174-bench-top-bowls?&forward=1#
>>>
>>>Then my gun enthusiast office-mate pointed me toward cheap alternatives:
>>>
>>>http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?tabid=1&categoryid=19906&categ
>>>or
>>> ystring=9315***731***695***8940***&utm_source=facasetumbler&utm_medium=re
>>>loa dingcat
>>>
>>>I found some videos of them cleaning bullet casings, their usual use for
>>>gun folk:
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni1cmZtwja0
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjGQlKyulqU
>>>
>>>It looks like decent action, and it fits my price/quietness (live in a
>>>tightly-packed LA neighborhood) points. Has anyone in here had experience
>>>with this kind of thing? Will it be enough for me? Can these things
>>> handle
>>>deburring well enough? Whatever I get, I'll find reason to pine for
>>> bigger
>>>at some point (just as with my mini-mill), but for now, it would be great
>>>to deburr, and polish up all of the smaller things I'm making out of
>>>6061-T6.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>-Gary
>>
>> I have the Lyman version, and have used it on steel, but the media
>> abrasiveness I have, the red or green stuff, needs help for steel, 2 days
>> didn't cut the hot roll scale off, just polished the edges a bit.  It
>> might
>> be just the ticket for alu parts though.  If it wasn't for the weight of
>> river sand spoiling the jiggle, it might work pretty decent on steel but
>> I've
>> not actually tried it myself.  I also have to run it outside as the hum
>> pretty well permeates the house when its sitting on a rug on the cement
>> floor
>> of the basement.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers, Gene
>
>I have a Sherline 5400 mini-mill, so steel is just about of the question
>anyway. In fact, I have trouble with more than 0.002" deep cuts in 6061,
>even with a tiny 1/8" bit. It's truly a hobby-level machine. My dream is
>to create some very clever, small, marketable things with it, to help save
>up for a sweet CNC knee mill, and then I can think about RP ABS machines,
>and powerful laser/water jet engravers/cutters! :)
>
>I've seen many Lymans in my hunt, and with 0 experience, am unsure which
>one would be comparable in noise, power, etc., to the Harbor Freight
>model, and which might be better suited for my needs. The HF model is so
>cheap, though, I think it's worth giving it a shot. I can always find an
>alternate use for it, or Ebay it off to someone needing to clean shell
>casings if it doesn't work out for me. Then I can reveal any good
>experiences here.
>
>The noise permeating the house is a bit distressing. If I have to run
>something for say, 10 hours, it would be nice to just let it run into the
>late evening to finish up. I'm doing all of this mini machining in my
>office, in a house with all wood floors (so no sound is ever trapped by
>rugs, or carpets), but I've been surprised how much sound is killed just
>by the ancient walls. I had the mill cutting at full throttle (2800RPM),
>and this shopvac running at around 11PM this weekend:
>
>http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10
>051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100388637&marketID=48&locStoreNum=66
>11&categoryID=524502
>
>I decided to finally see how loud it was for the neighbors, and went
>outside, and really couldn't hear it much when between our houses. Inside
>their house, through yet another wall, it would definitely be entirely
>silent. The ambient neighborhood sounds of traffic, and wind were louder
>than the very faint whir coming from my windows.
>
>Having lived in an apartment for years, with seemingly acoustically
>transparent walls, I've done a lot of research into soundproofing. One of
>the things I'm still keen to try with everything from the shopvac, to this
>vibratory bowl is anti-vibe mats, like these:
>
>http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/flooring.htm
>
>And even foot pads, like these:
>
>http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/vibrationpads.htm
>
>Another thing I'd love to try to really kill machine noise is a method I
>found on that site for building nesting boxes. Each is missing its bottom,
>and one side, and you nest them such that each larger box slides over its
>smaller, child box's open end, creating an opening that zig-zags back and
>forth from the inside to the out. Air can travel easily through this, but
>sound doesn't like turning corners. If you line the insides of the boxes
>with that anti-vibe, or sound-trapping stuff, and set it all up on a sheet
>of it on the floor, it's supposed to tremendously deaden machine sound.
>This would be great for something like a vacuum, which can be hidden away.
>The biggest problem is heat, but fans could probably be added to the setup
>to push air through the zig-zag channel. Maybe I could even run a pipe in
>there from my portable A/C unit to blow out the heat.
>
>Anyway, thanks for the info!
>-Gary
>
Some nice ideas there too Gary, thanks for sharing.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Klingon function calls do not have 'parameters' -- they have 'arguments'
-- and they ALWAYS WIN THEM.

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