On 11/17/2011 5:22 AM, Peter Blodow wrote:
> Jon,
> I think Richards original message was a little ironical. I think was he
> meant was that this EMC2 list is moving towards commercial users more
> and more, who are making money by using a no cost control program
> system. Consequently, interests of hobbyists (like I am, too) are going
> to the background. Nobody seriously wants to make watches on the kitchen
> table, you can buy them for a few dollars.
>
Peter:

I find your observation a bit ironical as well. Do you really feel 
hobbyist interests are going to the background?

It seems to me that this list is remarkably tolerant of one's 1) 
interest, 2) level of skill and knowledge, 3) intention, and 4) 
financial means. It would seem that all one has to do is ask and someone 
somewhere will have an answer or a pointer toward someone else who does. 
It certainly has met my hobbyist needs.

As for commercial users who are "making money by using a no cost control 
program system," more power to them. After all, the EMC project at NIST 
was part of a large national effort to improve the state of 
manufacturing. That EMC2 seemed initially to cater to hobbyists is more 
a matter of commercial users shunning an open-source project until they 
discovered it was a viable alternative to their industrial controllers. 
I think EMC2 is improved by efforts to introduce capabilities typical of 
machining centers.

I've mentioned on this list before that the Wiki has a poorly kept up 
section on the future of EMC2. If there are hobbyist interests that you 
believe need to be addressed, that would be a good place to post them.

And you underestimate my desire as a hobbyist when you say "nobody 
seriously wants to make watches on the kitchen table...." Granted, it 
isn't a watch but a big, noisy electro-mechanical clock I want to make. 
Nearly everyday during my time at NBS/NIST I would take a moment to look 
at the Shortt-Synchronome master clock in the library. Eventually I 
decided I wanted to build one. From there is was an easy segue to the 
decision that I needed to get into CNC milling before I could start 
making clock parts. Granted, that's a bit like saying I have to drive to 
the grocery store so I need to buy a Porsche 911 Carrera S, but you get 
my drift.

Happy machining!

Regards,
Kent


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