Oops, Kent, I suppose I stepped into what we call a lard pot. I didn't intend to hurt anyones's feelings. I myself am very grateful for the tolerance of the members of this list as I myself am a beginner to NC ( have always been and stayed one for the last 30 years or so). However, it took me some time in the beginning of my participance in early 2010 to realize that there were others besides hobbyists, at all! Probably I projected my private hobby situation onto all others, presuming that everybody dealing with such a delicate subject on a private basis will be doing this as a hobby. This would also, I think, correspond to a frequently found german mentality in the field of commerce - if it costs nothing, it is worth nothing. I can't not by far magine that a local workshop owner here would rely on something from the internet without warranty and seven seals on a purchase paper. No local support team, no big name, not for us!
Furthermore, I also didn't want to hurt your feelings as a clock maker or what you would call it. I know that the way many times is the goal, and I myself actually only want to know how something works and not produce large quantities for selling. There aren't any machines around this town that are as unproductive as mine - I still like to have them here, knowing I could produce almost any piece at home without going out for shopping, and I 'm proud that I can perform almost any metal working process in my house, from casting, welding, brazing up to all kinds of making chips, and much the same accordingly for wood working, electronics and optics. So, it's surely not ignorance on my part. Now that I come to think about it, I guess I may be a bit frustrated, now being retired, finding out that there still isn't much more time left for my hobby and, above all, that energy for driving all those Porsches is not endless any more.... But at least I enjoy reading the contributions of this mailing list every day, and I want it to stay that way. I am very grateful to the makers of EMC2 for their great efforts because they are helping me to keep my technical spirits alive. I have also learned a lot of the american way of metalworking today (which is surely not intended by the list's purpose) as my own experience from the US is about 45 years old. I hope you accept my apology. Peter > Peter: > > I find your observation a bit ironical as well. Do you really feel > hobbyist interests are going to the background? > > It seems to me that this list is remarkably tolerant of one's 1) > interest, 2) level of skill and knowledge, 3) intention, and 4) > financial means. It would seem that all one has to do is ask and someone > somewhere will have an answer or a pointer toward someone else who does. > It certainly has met my hobbyist needs. > > As for commercial users who are "making money by using a no cost control > program system," more power to them. After all, the EMC project at NIST > was part of a large national effort to improve the state of > manufacturing. That EMC2 seemed initially to cater to hobbyists is more > a matter of commercial users shunning an open-source project until they > discovered it was a viable alternative to their industrial controllers. > I think EMC2 is improved by efforts to introduce capabilities typical of > machining centers. > > I've mentioned on this list before that the Wiki has a poorly kept up > section on the future of EMC2. If there are hobbyist interests that you > believe need to be addressed, that would be a good place to post them. > > And you underestimate my desire as a hobbyist when you say "nobody > seriously wants to make watches on the kitchen table...." Granted, it > isn't a watch but a big, noisy electro-mechanical clock I want to make. > Nearly everyday during my time at NBS/NIST I would take a moment to look > at the Shortt-Synchronome master clock in the library. Eventually I > decided I wanted to build one. From there is was an easy segue to the > decision that I needed to get into CNC milling before I could start > making clock parts. Granted, that's a bit like saying I have to drive to > the grocery store so I need to buy a Porsche 911 Carrera S, but you get > my drift. > > Happy machining! > > Regards, > Kent > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure > contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, > security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this > data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
