On Thursday, November 17, 2011 02:23:07 PM Kent A. Reed did opine:

> On 11/17/2011 5:22 AM, Peter Blodow wrote:
> > Jon,
> > I think Richards original message was a little ironical. I think was
> > he meant was that this EMC2 list is moving towards commercial users
> > more and more, who are making money by using a no cost control
> > program system. Consequently, interests of hobbyists (like I am, too)
> > are going to the background. Nobody seriously wants to make watches
> > on the kitchen table, you can buy them for a few dollars.
> 
> Peter:
> 
> I find your observation a bit ironical as well. Do you really feel
> hobbyist interests are going to the background?
> 
> It seems to me that this list is remarkably tolerant of one's 1)
> interest, 2) level of skill and knowledge, 3) intention, and 4)
> financial means. It would seem that all one has to do is ask and someone
> somewhere will have an answer or a pointer toward someone else who does.
> It certainly has met my hobbyist needs.
 
Very well said, Kent.  I am continually impressed, both on this list, and 
on IRC, of the number of people who will, in between changing pallets of a 
production job, stop and try, usually successfully, to answer questions 
from a hobbyist that can often be replied to with a curt RTFM, but who 
instead take the time to try and teach an old fart like me how to do it.  A 
huge tip of the hat to those folks, you know who you are, and TBT it is 
most of you.
 
> As for commercial users who are "making money by using a no cost control
> program system," more power to them. After all, the EMC project at NIST
> was part of a large national effort to improve the state of
> manufacturing. That EMC2 seemed initially to cater to hobbyists is more
> a matter of commercial users shunning an open-source project until they
> discovered it was a viable alternative to their industrial controllers.
> I think EMC2 is improved by efforts to introduce capabilities typical of
> machining centers.

Tremendously so.  Scratching an itch if you will, and we all benefit.
 
> I've mentioned on this list before that the Wiki has a poorly kept up
> section on the future of EMC2. If there are hobbyist interests that you
> believe need to be addressed, that would be a good place to post them.
> 
> And you underestimate my desire as a hobbyist when you say "nobody
> seriously wants to make watches on the kitchen table...." Granted, it
> isn't a watch but a big, noisy electro-mechanical clock I want to make.
> Nearly everyday during my time at NBS/NIST I would take a moment to look
> at the Shortt-Synchronome master clock in the library.

Is that described in a wiki someplace?

> Eventually I
> decided I wanted to build one. From there is was an easy segue to the
> decision that I needed to get into CNC milling before I could start
> making clock parts. Granted, that's a bit like saying I have to drive to
> the grocery store so I need to buy a Porsche 911 Carrera S, but you get
> my drift.

Exactly.  ;-)
 
> Happy machining!
> 
> Regards,
> Kent

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