On Monday, June 04, 2012 07:49:47 AM Mark Wendt did opine:

> On 06/04/2012 06:39 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> > On Monday, June 04, 2012 06:31:34 AM Mark Wendt did opine:
> >> On 06/03/2012 11:39 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> >> 
> >> <snippage>
> >> 
> >>> As for the various methods of blackening brass, discussed here
> >>> previously, most were butt ugly, giving all the colors of a good
> >>> skin bruise rather than a nice flat black.  I believe that was
> >>> because of my inability to get all the cutting oil washed back out
> >>> of the brass with clean acetone or boiling in dish soap.  I can't
> >>> go enough narrower to fix it with a 1/32" mill as I can't trim the
> >>> slot width more than another thou, so today I will try dimming the
> >>> leds.  There has to be a fix someplace, I just have to find it...
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Cheers, Gene
> >> 
> >> Gene,
> >> 
> >> Acetone is a lousy degreaser.
> > 
> > I didn't know that.
> > 
> > It cuts most anything else, so I figured it was good for oils too.
> 
> Yup, and acetone tends to leave an oily film on the surface.
> 
> >> Scrub with Dawn dish detergent and hot
> >> water, the follow that with a rubdown of denatured alcohol and a
> >> clean, oil free rag.  Coffee filters or paper towels work good for
> >> that.
> > 
> > I used some sort of dish detergent, probably liquid Palmolive,
> > whatever was on the sink at the time.  For the alky I use the paint
> > thinner, real stuff, no water in it like is in isopropol.
> 
> Dawn is a much better degreaser.  Fella talked me into using it a few
> years back to wash down the surface of my cane rods before varnishing,
> and it worked great.  I started using it on the metal stuff I was bluing
> and got more consistent blues of the metal too.  And I always have a
> gallon of DNA laying around, for finishing and cleaning stuff.  DNA is
> great for cleaning up soldering flux residue too.

I've always steered clear of DNA, preferring the real thing for that as its 
faster.

Story from my tv days:  We used to buy freon TF in 6 gallon cartons for 
head cleaning of tape recorders, and we thought doing it 2-6x a day/machine 
was normal.  Then came the ozone hole, so I went looking for another 
cleaner, and settled on the Ace Hdwe alky, the one with the SLX label on 
the can.  That worked well too, and it only took me a day or so to discover 
that the head cleaning job went from several times a day for a busy 
machine, to once or twice a week!  That TF was leaving something behind 
that was attracting the tape oxide I think.  A huge difference in the 
amount of daily housekeeping in the control room required.
 
> >> That's all I do when I turn nickel silver fly rod ferrules, and I use
> >> cutting oil when turning them.  I black/blue them without any trouble
> >> after that type of cleaning.  Make sure you don't touch the brass
> >> with your bare hands after cleaning/degreasing, because skin oils
> >> will cause problems too.
> > 
> > Well known.  White cotton gloves that get tossed in the washing
> > machine frequently, then kept in a quart ziploc bag till used.
> 
> Good deal.  Work with the first two, and you should be able to get
> decent bluing/blackening on brass.

So noted, thanks Mark.

Cheers, Gene
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