I currently have a Ford Ranger pickup truck that has a bifuel CNG (Compressed Natural Gas)/unleaded gas conversion and I am going to try and convert that to Propane. I don't have a good source for CNG and right now Propane is going for just over $1.00 per gallon when purchased in 500 gallons or more (I have a bulk tank). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that $1.00 per gallon fuel will pay for a conversion very quickly and I already have most of the parts. Propane is a fairly easy fuel to handle compared to CNG. Not as easy as Unleaded or Diesel but for 1/3rd the price I can't resist. I have heard that the low propane prices are due to the fracking that is going on. I was recently traveling near Pittsburgh and I needed to get a hotel room one night and all of the hotels were booked and I was told that was because of the gas field workers who were shipped into open up the old PA oil wells via fracking. Apparently they are getting a lot of natural gas and propane out of those wells now.
I've got a friend who commutes 120 miles per day and he is thinking about putting a Propane conversion on his car for the same reason. There is actually a propane fueling station that opened up on I-69 in Northern Indiana recently and the last time I went by there last week they were selling propane at the self service pumps for $1.29 per gallon. Not bad! :-) On the OT topic of CO2 - do you know that you can buy CO2 generators that are oftentimes used in greenhouses? They burn Natural Gas solely for the purpose of generating CO2... I thought that was ironic - CO2 really is a Greenhouse gas! :-) Google: "CO2 generator greenhouse" And yes, they are perfectly legal. Perhaps you guys in the UK need to relabel your cars "mobile Green House gas generators" and then perhaps you can get a farm credit or something instead. ;-) Dave On 8/5/2012 9:12 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: > andy it was my impression from field engineers and warranty > replacement that the issue is fuel lubricity in the diesels, While i > am astounded by the output of modern oil burners they tend to like > parts when not fed a diet of perfect fuel in my exp. as to the e85 > they have a sensor in the canister vent and siff the o2 to calculate > fuel blend and adjust fuel mapping accordingly. This seems to me that > it would require much better fpgas than those on non flex vehicles, > but today i think fpga capacity is probly not the issue it was 4 yrs > ago when i was deep into keeping them going > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 9:03 PM, andy pugh<bodge...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 6 August 2012 01:21, jeremy youngs<jcyoung...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> It >>> would be great if manufacturers could develop efi diesels that were >>> multifuel compatible sadly that would be a tremendous engineering and >>> im sure andy would agree fuel mapping feat. >>> >> You can buy variants of the gasoline engines that automatically >> compensate for E85 (85% ethanol) though I am not sure how it is done. >> No sign of that for Diesel yet though it ought to be possible with >> in-cylinder pressure transducers. >> >> -- >> atp >> If you can't fix it, you don't own it. >> http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
