Yes, the old russian rockets are BETTER than anything the US produced, even today. They are closed cycle. There was a very good documentary on them not too long ago I watched but can't find it now.
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Home <hjjohn...@sasktel.net> wrote: > As I understand it, those are (basically) the same engines that takes the > Soyuz rockets up still.. Truth be told (I'm no expert but have seen some > articles to this effect) the Russian rocket engines where much superior to > their American counterparts such that since Russia put some of there > political views up on the shelf, these motors have been imported into the > U.S. in fairly good numbers. > > Just 'cause it's old doesn't mean it won't work. Might not be as efficient > as new technology but if you factor in the cost of acquiring(creating) new > technology, sometimes the old stuff is still more efficient. > > Fwiw > Jarrett Johnson > > All grammar and spelling errors, compliments of my iPhone > > > On Oct 29, 2014, at 18:54, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On 10/29/2014 5:20 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > >> 2014-10-29 18:34 GMT-03:00 Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com>: > >> > >>> I think that Nasa should resurrect the Constellation program. Nasa > >>> received most of the tooling required to make the Ares rocket. They > >>> even installed and tested the tooling fixtures. > >>> > >>> Having to pay Russia to launch our crap into low earth orbit is an > >>> embarrassment. > >>> > >> And imagine how far we would be now if they hadn't cancelled the Apollo > >> program. > >> > >> I've been reading something about the VASIMR motors to reduce the > >> travelling speed and they would be testing the first prototypes sometime > >> near 2013/2014, but I don't know if that happened or not. Reading > wikipedia > >> it says that with this motors the duration of a possible trip to Mars > would > >> be of 39 days. Pretty impressive. > >> > >> Anyway, the Plasma motors only would be useful in space, we still need > the > >> rockets to escape from the earht's gravity, unless they come with a > better > >> system. > > > > Funny that you mention Apollo... > > > > I just heard that the engines on the Antares rocket that blew up last > > night was using 40 year old refurbished Russian rocket engines.. (no > > joke - Apollo vintage) > > > > A quick search verified that. They were originally made in the 1970's! > > > http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/29/russian-rocket-crash-virginia > > > > I'm always looking for a bargain, but why would anyone in their right > > mind use refurbished Russian Rocket engines from the 1970's for a launch > > in 2014 ?? > > > > Wouldn't that be a RED FLAG for most engineers?? > > > > What were they thinking?? :-( > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > --- > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users