Found it: "the engines that came in from the cold" https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv7-kDhSnm7P1dAiJvvjeiLgwfv8_58TO
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Stephen Dubovsky <smdubov...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, the old russian rockets are BETTER than anything the US produced, > even today. They are closed cycle. There was a very good documentary on > them not too long ago I watched but can't find it now. > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Home <hjjohn...@sasktel.net> wrote: > >> As I understand it, those are (basically) the same engines that takes the >> Soyuz rockets up still.. Truth be told (I'm no expert but have seen some >> articles to this effect) the Russian rocket engines where much superior to >> their American counterparts such that since Russia put some of there >> political views up on the shelf, these motors have been imported into the >> U.S. in fairly good numbers. >> >> Just 'cause it's old doesn't mean it won't work. Might not be as >> efficient as new technology but if you factor in the cost of >> acquiring(creating) new technology, sometimes the old stuff is still more >> efficient. >> >> Fwiw >> Jarrett Johnson >> >> All grammar and spelling errors, compliments of my iPhone >> >> > On Oct 29, 2014, at 18:54, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> On 10/29/2014 5:20 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: >> >> 2014-10-29 18:34 GMT-03:00 Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com>: >> >> >> >>> I think that Nasa should resurrect the Constellation program. Nasa >> >>> received most of the tooling required to make the Ares rocket. They >> >>> even installed and tested the tooling fixtures. >> >>> >> >>> Having to pay Russia to launch our crap into low earth orbit is an >> >>> embarrassment. >> >>> >> >> And imagine how far we would be now if they hadn't cancelled the Apollo >> >> program. >> >> >> >> I've been reading something about the VASIMR motors to reduce the >> >> travelling speed and they would be testing the first prototypes >> sometime >> >> near 2013/2014, but I don't know if that happened or not. Reading >> wikipedia >> >> it says that with this motors the duration of a possible trip to Mars >> would >> >> be of 39 days. Pretty impressive. >> >> >> >> Anyway, the Plasma motors only would be useful in space, we still need >> the >> >> rockets to escape from the earht's gravity, unless they come with a >> better >> >> system. >> > >> > Funny that you mention Apollo... >> > >> > I just heard that the engines on the Antares rocket that blew up last >> > night was using 40 year old refurbished Russian rocket engines.. (no >> > joke - Apollo vintage) >> > >> > A quick search verified that. They were originally made in the 1970's! >> > >> http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/29/russian-rocket-crash-virginia >> > >> > I'm always looking for a bargain, but why would anyone in their right >> > mind use refurbished Russian Rocket engines from the 1970's for a launch >> > in 2014 ?? >> > >> > Wouldn't that be a RED FLAG for most engineers?? >> > >> > What were they thinking?? :-( >> > >> > Dave >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >> protection is active. >> > http://www.avast.com >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Emc-users mailing list >> > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
