On Sunday 17 May 2015 02:47:58 Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 16.05.15 12:16, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > All I have here is yellow clay gumbo thats darned near sterile,
> > growing only weeds.  Last garden I planted had 35 feet of woven wire
> > holding up the peas, and another 35 feet holding up some
> > half-runners. I got 1, 5 qt saucepan of peas and beans combined. 10
> > lb bag of seed taters gave maybe 5 lbs of marbles. A dozen hills of
> > sweet corn grew one ear.
>
> Needs more than a roll pin to fix that, Gene - a ton of gypsum to
> break up the clay, plus a couple of tons of rotted straw/hay, and a
> ton or two of cow manure (not too fresh). Plough it all in deep, and
> let sit over autumn/winter. May need to repeat after a couple of
> years. Mixing in quite a few tons of sand helps too, but is more work.
> It's done on farms here, shifting from one part of the farm to
> another, and boosts production measurably.
>
> Mind you, the potatoes are more easily grown in a straw-covered mix of
> straw and old cow manure, laid on a layer of newspapers, even over
> concrete. A foot-thick layer is good. Lift a handful of straw, harvest
> a tater or two, rub 'em spotless on your shirtsleeve if you can see a
> speck on 'em. Just don't let the chooks in, whatever you do.
>
> Erik

I came to the conclusion at about the same time my tiller died, that it 
was gonna grow weeds & grass the rest of my life.  The only thing that 
really grew is a couple Peonies Dee put out 30 some years ago, and which 
I had a heck of a time trying not to kill them when I laid up the 
retaining wall that 2 walls of the garage are now sitting on. This year 
its blossums were over 3 feet tall till the last rain weighed them down, 
and what was 2 bulbs is now covering a 4'x6' patch of this gumbo.  2 
roses, one a shoot from one her aunt had, about 150 years old grows 3 
feet a day so the clippers are never parked too far away, and another up 
by the west fence is showing signs of life.  I cut the obviously dead 
stuff out of it 2 weeks ago. So I expect it will get 4 feet tall &  
bloom several times before the next frost.

I have my burn pit setup where the garden was a decade back.

Thanks Erik.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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