Hi John,

You don’t need pull studs on the R-8 collets, just thread the draw bar into the 
collet. Either until it stops or loctite the draw bar at the right depth. Then 
use a Belleville washer and air cylinder setup like Andy’s. 

Matt

> On Nov 22, 2021, at 1:32 PM, John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com> wrote:
> 
> It's the lowering of the wrench that I don't have a lot of control on.  It's 
> pushed down hard enough to keep the draw bar on top of the spindle so as it 
> turns it pushes the sometimes a bit stiff R8 all the way down and out.  If 
> it's allow to move upwards (or I haven't locked the quill) then the drawbar 
> may unthread but I then have to push on the draw bar.
> 
> A sensor on the Z down may be what has to happen.  Then repeated tries with 
> blipping the air wrench until it goes down all the way is an option.  
> 
> Making a draw bar from oil hardening steel and hardening the head a bit so it 
> doesn't get carved away and ends up more slippery might also be a requirement.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: November-22-21 5:41 AM
>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.
>> 
>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 08:03, John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> One still has to line up the socket to the hex head of the drawbar.  And 
>>> since it can be at any position relative to the spindle the
>> sensing has to happen against the hex head.  Rotate spindle until hex head 
>> is at a known position.
>> 
>> How about:
>> 
>> Lower the wrench, but don't turn it on.
>> Rotate the spindle until the wrench drops down to the "engaged" height
>> (sensor on the slide)
>> Then operate the wrench.
>> 
>> --
>> atp
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