Come on, relax :)
On 05/10/2018 05:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Wed, 09 May 2018 17:17:14 +0000 Mike Blumenkrantz
<michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
While I can see some summarization of meeting items on the relatively
obscure https://phab.enlightenment.org/V33, which is inaccessible to anyone
who has not been avidly following the mailing list archives--ie. will never
be visible to any new community members--this is not quite the same as
recording the minutes of a meeting.
see the ticket that this was all about. it's there in the ticket itself in the
body. that is where the conversation was happening so it's summarized there.
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6740
i don't see why etherpad is needed. we have plenty of tools on phab for this.
no one disagreed with a wiki page.
People can collaborative write that together, as a few might want to
have other things noted down as others. At the end of the meeting things
just end up in the wiki page :) (As Mike said :))
you were talking as if people need to have it explained to them what minutes
are:
"Typically for meetings where items of substance are discussed, the minutes
will be recorded for posterity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutes";
Yeah which is ok, as i have never ever heared from that before :)
marcel already said:
"But i agree in general that there should be a wiki page for monitoring
contents of the meetings and some them up."
... so again. i see no reason why minutes will not be taken and recorded.
Aside from the visibility issue (there should be a defined and documented
page on the wiki/site where all of the minutes/logs from meetings can be
found), here is an example of "good" minute-taking from a meeting that I
was present in: https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/Meeting-2015-05-18 .
Note that this was a phone conference meeting, so someone was required to
more or less sit out of the meeting to transcribe its contents onto an
etherpad which everyone on the call was viewing during the call; since our
meetings are in text form, it should be far simpler to either cut+paste
notable statements or summarize them onto e.g., a
http://collabedit.com/ document
such as was previously suggested.
i don't think we should just copy & paste the entire thing. i think there
should be a summary of it like the ticket above has. if members of the meeting
disagree with the summary then it can be altered etc. having to wade through an
hour of irc log to know what a meeting was about is not a brilliant way of
presenting information here IMHO.
I think its also the place where things like this can happen at the
meeting, with something like collab edit.
All in all, the two of you want to see things written down and recorded,
i would like to test it with collabedit.com, maybe then its not the job
of one person to write down "meeting-minutes" rather than of many people
which makes it easier for each. So lets leave things from the past in
the past, and lets evalulate how this new approach worked on the 18th :)
Greetings,
bu5hm4n
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:14 PM Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 09 May 2018 13:58:52 +0000 Mike Blumenkrantz
<michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
Typically for meetings where items of substance are discussed, the
minutes
will be recorded for posterity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutes
we already did that fr the past 2 irc meetings 2 weeks ago so i see no
reason
this won't be the same.
On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 1:26 PM Marcel Hollerbach <m...@bu5hm4n.de>
wrote:
On 05/08/2018 06:35 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:
I think it's important to create a page which tracks meeting
"minutes"
for
each meeting so that at any time people can review the contents of
meetings
they were unable to attend or, for newer community members, see what
the
community has been doing recently.
I am not exactly sure what you mean by "tracks meeting 'minutes'".
I would create a event in the calendar, you can import them then to
your
private one and use the notifications you prefer for that event.
But i agree in general that there should be a wiki page for monitoring
contents of the meetings and some them up. I think there can be a
script
for that, as conduit seems to have a API for that.
Probably the easiest way to do this would be to have something like
an
etherpad where everyone can copy/paste/summarize things said on IRC
and
then copy the contents of the etherpad to the wiki after the meeting
ends.
There is http://collabedit.com which works without users etc. seems
reasonable for me. What do you think?
Greetings,
bu5hm4n
On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 11:32 AM Stephen Houston <
smhousto...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes - We have already forgotten about so much of this. The review
thread
needs to be bumped and discussed more and the release thread needs
to be
bumped and discussed more as well. Everything has already gone back
silent.
On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 7:02 AM Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> wrote:
On 08/05/18 21:24, Marcel Hollerbach wrote:
Updated version:
Rather then having to be subscribed to something (or as well as)
it
would be nice if something sent a meeting reminder email to this
list
24hrs before each meeting as well.
We can do that the first few weeks, but for the long term i would
stick
to subscribing to a group on phabricator, as everything else is a
bit
verbose IMO, and a few may just not be interested at all :)
I think it would be better to keep them, they will have an obvious
subject line that people who are not interested can filter out
either
automatically or manually, just like its easy to see then not pay
attention to comments brought up about a specific patch you have no
interest in.
It also means that new developers or potential developers in a
year -
three years time will immediately be aware that we do irc meetings.
But maybe this is just the opinion of someone who has learned to
mostly
deal with getting 10,000+ emails a month and sees an extra 2 as no
big
issue.
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