As Mike suggested and I've been saying... the meetings need to be exactly 12 hours apart, not 8 hours. So if Tuesday was UTC+8, Thursday would be UTC+20... then the next Tuesday UTC+20 and the next Thursday UTC+8, etc...
On Mon, May 14, 2018, 9:42 AM Marcel Hollerbach <m...@bu5hm4n.de> wrote: > Okay, then lets say that we meet at the first full week and every third > full week, always on Tuesday and Thursday. > On the first week Tuesday is at UTC + 8 and Thursday at UTC + 16. > In the third week Tuesday is at UTC + 16 and Thursday at UTC + 8. > (This month however is a exception and we start this scheudule first > fully in June.) > > Meetings are captured with a IRC logger. > A few people can write the meeting minutes into http://collabedit.com. > > After the meetings the log is uploaded to the wiki same as the contents > that have been captured in collabedit document. > After that the wiki link can be sent to the mailinglists as reminder of > what happened. > > How does that sound to you? > > Greetings, > bu5hm4n > > > On 05/11/2018 03:39 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > > This is actually similar to how many projects organize their meetings. > > Having two separate meetings at "opposite" times allows everyone to have > a > > choice of meetings to attend with at least one of the times being optimal > > for any given location. Using proper recording methods, everyone is then > > able to see what happened at each meeting. In the meeting procedures page > > (which should exist if it doesn't already), it should be documented that > > the meeting notes should be sent to all related channels/lists after each > > meeting to promote community involvement. > > > > I think that if everyone is okay with at least one of these times then > this > > is fine, though it should be noted that this time schedule makes it > awkward > > for any particular region to attend both meetings; traditionally the time > > rotates exactly 12 hours so that at least one timezone is capable of > > attending every meeting. > > > > The only adjustment I would make is that the meetings should be moved to > > weekly in this case. If the meeting times rotate and are set for every > two > > weeks, this means that each group meets only once a month--hardly as > useful. > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:08 PM Stephen Houston <smhousto...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I'm well aware the other time slot allows for North Americans but it > will > >> then cut out anyone else. That's the point I was making - there is > going > >> to be little crossover. between the two groups of people meeting - and I > >> don't think that is a good thing. > >> > >> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 2:06 PM Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, 10 May 2018 14:55:07 +0000 Stephen Houston < > >> smhousto...@gmail.com> > >>> said: > >>> > >>>> This was the best time you could come up with for the meetings? 4-6AM > >>> EST, > >>>> 3-5AM CDT, 2-4AM MST, and 1-3AM PDT? That pretty much means that no > >>> North > >>>> Americans are going to be present at all... at least with the time we > >>> were > >>>> using for the meetings previously, it is reasonable enough for North > >>>> Americans, Europeans, and Asians to all attend whether it be 8AM on > the > >>>> west coast of US or 11PM for like indefini in Japan... sure that is > >>> easier > >>>> for US... but then you just flip that time for the second meeting and > >> its > >>>> still reasonable enough for all to attend but easier for indefini in > >>>> Japan. This is what I was expecting. Not a time that is basically > >> going > >>>> to mean: US gets to meet the first meeting of the month with eachother > >>> and > >>>> then Eastern European/Asians get to meet with eachother the second > >>> meeting > >>>> of the month and there is no crossover (minus Western Europeans that > >> can > >>>> make both). I foresee that as being bad and not really working out. > >>> > >>> ummm you need to look at the other time slot too. i don't think we're > >>> going to > >>> do 2hrs each... > >>> > >>> https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=100,8,5,1850147&h=100 > >>> > >>> so one is 1am/4am PDT/EDT an the other is 9am/12pm PDT/EDT. (CDT being > in > >>> between). and note on the other end with Japan (and Korea etc.) time. > >>> > >>> :) so they keep flipping between 2 times to try and let everyone attend > >> at > >>> least once a month. > >>> > >>>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:58 AM Marcel Hollerbach <m...@bu5hm4n.de> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 05/10/2018 09:22 AM, Simon Lees wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 10/05/18 13:20, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >>>>>>> On Wed, 09 May 2018 17:17:14 +0000 Mike Blumenkrantz > >>>>>>> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> While I can see some summarization of meeting items on the > >>> relatively > >>>>>>>> obscure https://phab.enlightenment.org/V33, which is > >> inaccessible > >>> to > >>>>> anyone > >>>>>>>> who has not been avidly following the mailing list archives--ie. > >>> will > >>>>> never > >>>>>>>> be visible to any new community members--this is not quite the > >>> same as > >>>>>>>> recording the minutes of a meeting. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> see the ticket that this was all about. it's there in the ticket > >>> itself > >>>>> in the > >>>>>>> body. that is where the conversation was happening so it's > >>> summarized > >>>>> there. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6740 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> i don't see why etherpad is needed. we have plenty of tools on > >> phab > >>> for > >>>>> this. > >>>>>>> no one disagreed with a wiki page. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> you were talking as if people need to have it explained to them > >> what > >>>>> minutes > >>>>>>> are: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Typically for meetings where items of substance are discussed, > >> the > >>>>> minutes > >>>>>>> will be recorded for posterity: > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutes"; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> marcel already said: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "But i agree in general that there should be a wiki page for > >>> monitoring > >>>>>>> contents of the meetings and some them up." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ... so again. i see no reason why minutes will not be taken and > >>>>> recorded. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What I would like to see and I think what Mike is getting at is a > >>> wiki > >>>>>> page either on the main wiki or somewhere on phab, which atleast > >>> lists > >>>>>> all the links to the meeting summaries rather then just having > >>> obscure > >>>>>> phab links to them. Even better would be if all the summaries were > >>> also > >>>>>> just in one page so you didn't have to click links to follow the > >>>>>> previous meetings. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Yep, thats what i want to do on this page and the linked pages > >>>>> https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/meetings/ :). > >>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > >>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >>>>>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > >>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >>>>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > >>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >>>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > -------------- > >>> Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > >> _______________________________________________ > >> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
