2011/11/11 Thanatermesis <thanatermesis.e...@gmail.com>: > This has not much sense, its the same a "rc" tarball than get it from an > actual svn checkout, I say that because if there's "release candidate" > tarballs, and something (related to how it builds) needs to be changed, no > matters if previously was made a tarball or not, so it becomes to have no > value at all. >
It does have value. Once everything is ready for the release, you make a pre-release tarball that they can make sure it builds fine on OpenBSD. They are working on it now, but that last check is to ensure that no change at the end that they missed or didn't get to test makes the released version to break. I'm all for doing that. > 2011/11/11 Iván Briano (Sachiel) <sachi...@gmail.com> > >> 2011/11/11 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>: >> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Bruno Dilly <bdi...@profusion.mobi> >> wrote: >> > >> >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Jonathan Armani <d...@asystant.net> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Carsten Haitzler < >> ras...@rasterman.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 18:18:29 +0100 (CET) Vincent Torri < >> >> vto...@univ-evry.fr> >> >> >> said: >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hey >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I'm talking a lot with an openBSD dev, and currently it's very hard >> for >> >> >>> them to follow the changes in the trunk. What they would like to >> have >> >> is >> >> >>> snapshots to provide easily patches for the EFL. >> >> >> >> >> >> how is that hard? svn checkout or update instead of wget. u also need >> >> to run >> >> >> autogen.sh. >> >> >> >> >> >>> Would it be possible to have, during the freeze period, some daily >> >> >>> snashots ? It would be nice to fix the openBSD port for the release. >> >> >> >> >> >> open to patches, but none have been submitted. >> >> > >> >> > Are you kidding ? I though you were reading the svn log. I take a lot >> >> > of my time pushing / polishing these diff (special thanks to vtorrin, >> >> > bluebugs and billiob). >> >> > So you come from nowhere and make all this work looking bad, here and >> >> > on irc, that's amazing. >> >> >> >> Sometimes he acts this way. Don't take it personal, don't let it >> >> demotivate you. >> >> Keep the good work ! =) >> >> >> > Reminds me of some of the stuff I've been saying... >> > As for "don't have time to do tarballs everyday".. well, that's why >> there's >> > something called "scripts" and "cron jobs".. those things exist, might be >> > good to use these awesome technologies. >> > >> >> The problem with that is guaranteeing that the entire thing builds. >> Doing tarballs out of any random checkout is not unlike doing the >> actual checkout yourself. >> >> Now, to be fair, what the OpenBSD guys are asking for are some rc >> tarballs before the release to make sure that everything is building >> fine for them on the actual release, not daily tarballs, and this whole >> thing got to this point out of not stating things clearly in the first >> place. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > if they require tarballs to >> >> >> test and can't just run svn instead to fetch the source... i don't >> have >> >> the >> >> >> time each day to make tarballs when they can just as easily fetch >> from >> >> svn. >> >> >> it's the same work on their part. making tarballs is MORE work on our >> >> part. >> >> > >> >> > You missed the point, we want to be sure that the final archive will >> be >> >> ok. >> >> > I'm not asking for snapshot on a daily basis, only some rc before the >> >> > final archive. >> >> > (Wait no project did alpha & rc, right ?) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> Note that i discuss also with a Mageia e17 maintainer, and he told >> me >> >> that >> >> >>> such snapshots will help him too. >> >> >> >> >> >> a snapshot has no more quality than an svn checkout, so other than a >> >> mental >> >> >> block thinking svn == totally unstable/unusable and an unwillingness >> to >> >> use it >> >> >> because of a mental block, i don't see the point. >> >> > >> >> > yeah a mental block, I think you don't want to know how many time I >> >> > have to reroll a dist to get all working and how frustating it is. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> a release that has had quality assurance done on it is a different >> >> matter - but >> >> >> we arent doing them every day. hell no - not with al the efl trees we >> >> have. >> >> >> only chance of that is if we stopped having separate libs and just >> >> merged them >> >> >> into a single efl tree. >> >> >> >> >> >>> Vincent >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >>> RSA(R) Conference 2012 >> >> >>> Save $700 by Nov 18 >> >> >>> Register now >> >> >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> >> >>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" >> -------------- >> >> >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> RSA(R) Conference 2012 >> >> >> Save $700 by Nov 18 >> >> >> Register now >> >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> >> >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > RSA(R) Conference 2012 >> >> > Save $700 by Nov 18 >> >> > Register now >> >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> >> > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Bruno Dilly >> >> Senior Developer >> >> ProFUSION embedded systems >> >> http://profusion.mobi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> RSA(R) Conference 2012 >> >> Save $700 by Nov 18 >> >> Register now >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> >> >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > RSA(R) Conference 2012 >> > Save $700 by Nov 18 >> > Register now >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> RSA(R) Conference 2012 >> Save $700 by Nov 18 >> Register now >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 >> _______________________________________________ >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > RSA(R) Conference 2012 > Save $700 by Nov 18 > Register now > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
