On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:30:55 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
>>
>> BTW, I have Marina's icon for CPU & Temp, but I don't use them and I
>> think they should not exist for a desktop or laptops nowadays (I also
>> know the reasons, but AFAIK they are all fixed in the proper places,
>> like the kernel). So if someone wants to convert these gadgets to
>> similar look & feel, let me know.
>
> Maybe I misunderstand what you mean.
>
> It's quite hot here in summer, and it is crucial that I keep an eye on
> my CPU's temperature.  There is the difference between "so hot things
> might be unstable" and "so hot the computer will shut down for
> safety".  Knowing that I'm at the first stage means I know to not trust
> things, but can keep using my computer if things seem to be fine.
> Knowing that I'm getting close to the second stage means I know when to
> just shut it down properly, open the case, and point big fans at it.

This is exactly what I mean with fixing it in the wrong place.  Here
(Brazil) is very hot the whole year, I knew this problem from Athlon
days :-)

The problem is "what if you're not there to change?". The kernel is
always there, with the highest priority. There is work to make it
throttle before more drastic measures.

anyway, I'm just not doing the gadgets theme work. Feel free to work
on them with the icons I have. You can base the edc from efenniht as
the icons are basically the same.

> I don't think either of those things is "fixed in the kernel".  Only
> reason why I don't use the E module for those is that it could never
> show proper results for my motherboard, not even for my last
> motherboard.  lol

at least for intel i7 cpu there is throttling module, it's mandatory
due the turbo boost feature they provide (using a single core will
allow it to be overclocked)


> Not sure what you mean by "CPU", the only thing I can think of is the
> cpu and cpufreq modules.  As a developer they provide important info to
> me.  On the other hand, I don't use cpu, coz it does not provide a
> graph, and I use cpufreq, coz I have not found anything that does
> provide a graph.  lol

it's the cpufreq, it is just the filling of a cpu chip icon Marina
draw. Check efenniht and it's the same. Not a graph indeed.

here it's the same thing, proven that cpu "ondemand" governor is the
way to go, people even talk about removing other governors one day.


> I don't see why these things should not exist for desktops or laptops.
> Certainly for me at least, they should exist, AND should have more
> functionality.

go for it, but I'd at least move them to a "dev" or "geek" module that
aggregates all these things, a gkrellm like module. The problem is
that most users will not have a clue what are these things and get
confused.

this last part is not just about cpu/temp modules, there are a huge
number of modules people have no idea what are... "dbus? what's this?
why should I turn it on? or off?"  Maybe flag these modules are
"advanced" and just show them in an "advanced" option in modules
dialog.

-- 
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
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