On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:24:58 +0000 Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com> said:

> On 14/02/13 03:14, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:55:52 +0000 Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com>
> > said:
> >
> >> On 12/02/13 22:44, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:32:59 +0100 Bertrand Jacquin <be...@meleeweb.net>
> >>> said:
> >>>
> >>>> D'ar gwener 08 a viz C'hwevrer 2013 e 03 eur 35, « Carsten Haitzler » he
> >>>> deus skrivet :
> >>>>> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:35:07 -0600 ravenlock <ravenl...@ravenlock.us>
> >>>>> said:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/30/13 5:32 AM, Bertrand Jacquin wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For e5 buildbot/whatever we will need different OS and architecture to
> >>>>>>> test. So if some volunteer are free to build some, we can gladly host
> >>>>>>> them.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Needed OS :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    - Windows XP x86
> >>>>>>>    - Windows XP x86_64
> >>>>>>>    - Windows Vista x86_64
> >>>>>>>    - Windows 7 x86_64
> >>>>>>>    - Windows 8 x86_64
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is the plan for licensing the above?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> someone needs to actually pay for a proper license/copy. there is no
> >>>>> way i will allow us to use pirated copies of any software on our infra.
> >>>>> if we ask people to respect our licenses, be they bsd, gpl or anything
> >>>>> else, then we will respect theirs, regardless if they are open or not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>    (maybe more declination are needed ?)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    - Mac OS X Snow Leopard
> >>>>>>>    - Mac OS X Lion
> >>>>>>>    - Mac OS X Mountain Lion
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is easy and do'able if you have the Mac hardware and Parallels.
> >>>>>> Refurbed Mac Minis are like $500, you can stuff 16GB in them and a 1TB
> >>>>>> disk.  Works perfectly well.  Once upon a time there were E-funds being
> >>>>>> held.  We might tap into those?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> he's asking for vm's, not hardware. we can't do squat diddly with a mac
> >>>>> mini. our server is in a rack in a server room/colo in oregon. :) i
> >>>>> know - osx expressly forbids being used on anything other than apple
> >>>>> hardware (vm's included).
> >>>>
> >>>> On Illiad datacenter (where e3 and e4 are), we can add some hardware
> >>>> devices (no more than 1U tall)
> >>>
> >>> oh cool - though that is a different matter imho - not "e5" related as
> >>> that's over in oregon (osuosl). :)
> >>>
> >>>>> something installed with network running and preferably everything up to
> >>>>> and including x running and working within the vm
> >>>>
> >>>> Why is a X needed as running ? Librairies should be sufficient.
> >>>
> >>> test suites will need to be able to RUN apps ans do things like
> >>> screenshot. exactness relies on this to replay recorded events then take
> >>> screenshots for comparison. sure - xvfb will deal with this too - just
> >>> the same, but no distro these days sets up x to listen on port 6000
> >>> anyway - so its local only (uni sockets) so not a security issue anyway..
> >>> and its behind a nat anyway even if it did listen on port 6000... but we
> >>> would need a working x setup to do things like test login sessions,
> >>> entrance for example etc. and we can feed in events remotely.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Exactness doesn't need X. IIRC we changed it to use the buffer engine.
> >
> > it used to need x... :)
> >
> 
> Just at the beginning (or maybe it still does?) I don't remember any 
> more. We do have an X mode for "simulation" and "recording" but it's not 
> really needed for the test suite to run.

oh maybe it was that that iw as worried about.

but we'll still need x to test things like moving over a window - resizing of
them, changing of window properties, other wm interactions etc. :)

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The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)    ras...@rasterman.com


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