On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 07:48:23 -0400 Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> said:
> At Sat, 2 Nov 2013 18:22:57 +0900 Enlightenment developer list > <enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 02:17:32 -0400 Jose Gonzalez <jose_...@juno.com> said: > > > > > Carsten wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 05:57:59 -0400 Jose Gonzalez <jose_...@juno.com> > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Carsten wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 00:40:42 +0000 Andrew F > > > >>> <andrewfriedman...@gmail.com> said: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> Hey guys, can someone point me to documentation that explains what a > > > >>>> swallow is? > > > >>>> and how its used. > > > >>>> thanks > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> swallow the name is something i adopted from fvwm2 days - it had > > > >>> swallow stuff... and swallows in edje are the same thing basically - > > > >>> just with objects. > > > >>> > > > >>> didn't you see my link to the swallow docs? > > > >>> > > > >>> https://build.enlightenment.org/job/nightly_efl_gcc_x86_64/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/doc/html/group__Edje__Part__Swallow.html#ga97d1419f89bff20ba971e47c78641271 > > > >>> > > > >>> its there in the efl online docs (thats the latest auto nightly doc > > > >>> build). > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> Good lord man, yes that's a nice bit of history but do you now > > > >> want him to look up fwm2's docs as well! :) > > > >> Also, I can't even access that link you gave... And where is the > > > >> old pdf that had edje documentation (the edje cookbook or something)? > > > >> > > > >> Anyway, why not give a simple explanation of the thing rather than > > > >> beat around the bush... Something short but to the heart of the matter, > > > >> like say: > > > >> > > > > > > > > because of the comments that "efl has no docs so its impossible to use - > > > > this is undocumented anywhere". give a man a fish - you feed him for a > > > > day. teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. i'm pointing > > > > to the docs so he can keep looking around and refer to them for more > > > > questions etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That works both ways. People who ask questions aren't necessarily > > > idiots and maybe efl devs can benefit from a bit more practice in directly > > > and concisely answering their questions - that way not only do they > > > address the particular issue at hand but also maybe find it easier to > > > write clear documentation as they go along writing code.... and even > > > then, no single wording will ever be clear to everyone. > > > Remember another cliche: If a thing is truly clear then no explanation > > > is ever needed. And if it's not, then it's worth explaining again. > > > > given this thread... it appears the original poster/question never even > > found yhe docs hat are there at all, so pointing to them is the firs port > > of call imho. if THEY do not suffice - then that is a different matter > > > The docs did not suffice. The explaination below is more than anything I > founf in the docs. but we never even got to that point until now - the docs did tell you what a swallow is... that the parent takes control of geometry etc. that api says that. :) > > > > > >> An edje object is a particular kind of container evas object > > > >> (also called evas smart objects). In the edc description, an edje > > > >> object is defined as a 'group'. > > > >> As a container object, it has child objects and these are declared > > > >> in the edc as various kinds of 'parts' within that group. There are > > > >> parts like 'rectangle' and 'image', for example, which are of known > > > >> type. But an edje can also have child evas objs of any sort by > > > >> declaring 'swallow' parts in its edc. The 'swallow' C-api is what then > > > >> enables you to programatically add an arbitrary evas object (that > > > >> you've obtained somehow) as a child of the edje so as to 'fill' > > > >> whatever declared swallow part. > > > >> > > > >> ............ > > > >> > > > >> Now, where's that iMenu? And E shell-skinning? And improved > > > >> Exchange server? And ...... :) > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) > > > 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat > > > storage > > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52749964d20e3195d1a40st02duc > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform > > > that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. 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